Private sale rules question

[fullmann]

There needs to be an exemption put in there to allow bypass of BGC with presentation of valid carry permit. Isn't that technically THE background check to end all background checks?

When I lived in GA for a bit, that was their program. The carry permits took about a week to get back, and looked like you could have printed it on your home computer. No photo required, just a finger print. It was really nice to bypass the background check lines out the door during the panic.

Walk in to your favorite dealer, fill out the 4473, show them the carry permit, pay, go on with your day...

most private sales requested at least a peak at your permit as well.

How can we get that here??

[james_bond_007]

There needs to be an exemption put in there to allow bypass of BGC with presentation of valid carry permit. Isn't that technically THE background check to end all background checks?

When I lived in GA for a bit, that was their program. The carry permits took about a week to get back, and looked like you could have printed it on your home computer. No photo required, just a finger print. It was really nice to bypass the background check lines out the door during the panic.

Walk in to your favorite dealer, fill out the 4473, show them the carry permit, pay, go on with your day...

most private sales requested at least a peak at your permit as well.

How can we get that here??

Starts with a gun-friendly majority in the Colorado Senate and House.
May also require a gun-friendly administration in power in DC, since they were so influential here in Colorado.

I say, let's start by putting things back like they were...then looking for "upgrades".

[Circuits]

There needs to be an exemption put in there to allow bypass of BGC with presentation of valid carry permit. Isn't that technically THE background check to end all background checks?

How can we get that here??

For a concealed carry permit to allow you to bypass NICS, the permit must meet a set of criteria which make it "NICS-qualified". One of those is that it be issued by a unitary (state) authority, which regularly checks available criminal and mental health records against their list of permit holders - same as if you were magically undergoing a refresher background check on a regular basis.

To do that in CO would require the legislature to conduct a complete revamping of the current permit system and get rid of the county-by-county issuers.

[Great-Kazoo]

For a concealed carry permit to allow you to bypass NICS, the permit must meet a set of criteria which make it "NICS-qualified". One of those is that it be issued by a unitary (state) authority, which regularly checks available criminal and mental health records against their list of permit holders - same as if you were magically undergoing a refresher background check on a regular basis.

To do that in CO would require the legislature to conduct a complete revamping of the current permit system and get rid of the county-by-county issuers.

CO, at one time did allow CCW permit purchase w/out a BG check. That was way before statewide CCW. It unfortunately was short lived

[Circuits]

CO, at one time did allow CCW permit purchase w/out a BG check. That was way before statewide CCW. It unfortunately was short lived

Yeah, we could do it that way for about two years between interim brady in 96 and when permanent brady kicked in with its NICS requirements in 98...

[brutal]

For a concealed carry permit to allow you to bypass NICS, the permit must meet a set of criteria which make it "NICS-qualified". One of those is that it be issued by a unitary (state) authority, which regularly checks available criminal and mental health records against their list of permit holders - same as if you were magically undergoing a refresher background check on a regular basis.

To do that in CO would require the legislature to conduct a complete revamping of the current permit system and get rid of the county-by-county issuers.

A.K.A. Utah CFP.

Mine's due in about 52 days.

[Circuits]

A.K.A. Utah CFP.

Mine's due in about 52 days.

Congrats - I used to have a Florida non-resident myself. When the dims got elected in 2006, they immediately unrecognized non-resident permits, though, so no longer did me any good in CO, and CO CHL had/has about the same reciprocity.

You're not hoping it'll let you bypass NICS, are you? Because it won't - at least not in Colorado.

[brutal]

Congrats - I used to have a Florida non-resident myself. When the dims got elected in 2006, they immediately unrecognized non-resident permits, though, so no longer did me any good in CO, and CO CHL had/has about the same reciprocity.

Got it so i can carry in WA where my son and DIL reside. WA and CO do not have reciprocity. I assume due to WA will issue and lack of training reqs. Hell, I could get a NR WA permit but you have to apply in person and wait. UT got me WA plus three other states.

You're not hoping it'll let you bypass NICS, are you? Because it won't - at least not in Colorado.

I'm not. Nothing changes the sale/purchase and transfer rules for handguns - as in resident only for dealer or FTF sale or transfer through non-resident's state of residence FFL.

[davsel]

For a concealed carry permit to allow you to bypass NICS, the permit must meet a set of criteria which make it "NICS-qualified". One of those is that it be issued by a unitary (state) authority, which regularly checks available criminal and mental health records against their list of permit holders - same as if you were magically undergoing a refresher background check on a regular basis.

To do that in CO would require the legislature to conduct a complete revamping of the current permit system and get rid of the county-by-county issuers.

How does this apply to Montana's system where County Sheriffs also issue CCW permits and CCW holders are exempt from background checks when purchasing?
http://smartgunlaws.org/background-checks-in-montana/

[Circuits]

How does this apply to Montana's system where County Sheriffs also issue CCW permits and CCW holders are exempt from background checks when purchasing?
http://smartgunlaws.org/background-checks-in-montana/

For the definitive answer, you'd have to ask ATF. Probably there's a central clearinghouse in MT that coordinates the county permits at a state level.