Saiga 12 Pistol?

[bellavite1]

So, this is my new toy, a Draco AK pistol.
Which makes me wonder...
Does anybody know about a Saiga 12 based pistol?
With a shallow rifling in the barrel (not unlike the Taurus Judge), it would be a very compact,magazine feed,semi-auto,non-AOW stamp requiring 12 gauge shotgun .
I cannot believe nobody came out with it.
And, just in case some manufacturer is reading this, how many of you would buy it?
P.S.
I am going to post this on several boards.
Maybe somebody out there has an answer ...

[Batteriesnare]

I thought that if it didn't have rifling, it had to be registered, which is probably why it hasn't been pursued.

[micah360]

post it here... you'll get an answer in less then a minute I bet.

http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showforum=2

[DeusExMachina]

If you'd be converting a former full size shotgun, I think it would be an AOW like a Serbu.

If you could get Saiga or someone else to produce pistol-only, 12ga receivers it would probably be legal. I don't think there's much of a market for a semi-auto tiny shotgun, though..

Shooting 7.62x39 in that small package must be "interesting".

[MichiganMilitia]

So does a SBS just require a NFA tax stamp? A 12-inch saiga 12 might be very effective for home defense...

[Batteriesnare]

So does a SBS just require a NFA tax stamp? A 12-inch saiga 12 might be very effective for home defense...

Yes.

[Irving]

1) Why would anyone want a rifled barrel shotgun? That's silly.
2) You have one choice, and that is to cut the barrel and make it an SBS. In order for it to be an AOW, it would have to have been built as a pistol. While I don't think that is illegal, I doubt anyone makes a semi-auto shotgun in pistol configuration from the factory.
3) I think I know what foxtrot is talking about now. There are limits to the size of round that can go in a rifled barrel, which is .5" I think. So you'd never be able to have a gun with a rifled barrel large enough to fit a 12 gauge. Not that you'd want one anyway.

[Irving]

If you'd be converting a former full size shotgun, I think it would be an AOW like a Serbu.

If you could get Saiga or someone else to produce pistol-only, 12ga receivers it would probably be legal. I don't think there's much of a market for a semi-auto tiny shotgun, though..

In order to be an AOW, it has to be produced on a pistol only receiver like you said, and you can never attach a butt stock. Also, if Saiga produced those receivers, they'd have to be registered as AOW, and there is not much of a market for that.


You know all those Mossberg pistol shotguns with all the retarded things attached to the barrels? Like the stupid huge flash hiders that are only for mall ninjas? That is because they made a bunch of AOWs, but there was no market so they attached all that junk to the barrel to sell to the regular mall ninjas instead.

[MichiganMilitia]

I like your new avatar Sturtle!

[Irving]

It seemed....fitting.