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    Quote Originally Posted by Hound View Post
    For all those on the bakers side... You do realize the exact same arguments were made in the 50's and 60's. It was wrong then... It's wrong now. No business has the right to discriminate. If you really believe in the Constitution, this should be a no brainer.
    Gay rights are not CIVIL RIGHTS.
    IF we allow a section of society to push for Civil Rights status, why not everyone? Polygamist, should they not be granted the same right to "WED" who they want?
    Gay rights ARE COLOR BLIND. We do not look at someone and see Hetro o,r Homosexual.
    We can see a persons color, not their sexual orientation, most of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hound View Post
    For all those on the bakers side... You do realize the exact same arguments were made in the 50's and 60's. It was wrong then... It's wrong now. No business (or person) has the right to discriminate. If you really believe in the Constitution, this should be a no brainer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hound View Post
    For all those on the bakers side... You do realize the exact same arguments were made in the 50's and 60's. It was wrong then... It's wrong now. No business (or person) has the right to discriminate. If you really believe in the Constitution, this should be a no brainer.
    No person has a right to discriminate? You have to date or have sex with whomever asks you, regardless?
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    They should just contract the cake out to chinamart and let them pick it up at their shop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    Gay rights are not CIVIL RIGHTS.
    IF we allow a section of society to push for Civil Rights status, why not everyone? Polygamist, should they not be granted the same right to "WED" who they want?
    Gay rights ARE COLOR BLIND. We do not look at someone and see Hetro o,r Homosexual.
    We can see a persons color, not their sexual orientation, most of the time.
    It's still discrimination. If you believe in letting people be free to do what they want to do, this is no different. What you or anybody else is doing in their own home or lifestyle is their busisness as along as they are of age, consenting and not hurting anybody. Leave them and everybody else alone. I don't agree with it personally and obviously neither do you but I am not going to tell others how to live their lives. I don't smoke pot but it is the same principle, I put pot on the same level as alcohol (so do Colorado voters). I do 4x4 and hate it when people try to tell me I shouldn't or even can't. I shoot guns even though plenty of people want to discriminate that away (had one guy tell me he did not hire a guy because he found out they guy owned guns and thought he would shoot up the work place [idiot]). Leave people alone unless they are directly hurting somebody. I don't agree when any person thinks they can tell somebody else what to do with their lives. Not selling a cake to people because you don't agree with who they want to live with is discrimination, pure and simple.
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    So the .gov should make kosher delis sell ham, because Christians traditionally eat ham at Easter? And vegan health food stores should be forced to sell meat because it's discriminatory against carnivores not to? How about forcing the cake shop to make a giant penis cake for committed nudists?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hound View Post
    . Not selling a cake to people because you don't agree with who they want to live with is discrimination, pure and simple.
    NO it's a BUSINESS DECISION. NOT UP TO THE .GOV TO tell me who i should do business with.
    Tell you what, lets see if the ACLU will take on those pesky NO FIREARMS business'. AFTER ALL, They discriminate. IT will never happen, why? BECAUSE the ACLU and .gov cherry pick what they feel is discrimination.
    As do jesse jackson, sharpton and of all places, the media.
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    I don't agree when any person thinks they can tell somebody else what to do with their lives. Not selling a cake to people because you don't agree with who they want to live with is discrimination, pure and simple.
    Those are mutually exclusive assertions. Either you CAN'T tell people what to do, or you CAN. When you force the bakery owner to sell to a person who he does not want to, you have then discriminated against him, pure and simple.

    Is it just me, or do the persons arguing against the baker all seem to be from Aurora? Is that you Rhonda?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkCO View Post
    Those are mutually exclusive assertions. Either you CAN'T tell people what to do, or you CAN. When you force the bakery owner to sell to a person who he does not want to, you have then discriminated against him, pure and simple.

    Is it just me, or do the persons arguing against the baker all seem to be from Aurora? Is that you Rhonda?

    late 2012 and 2013 members. seems the newer members have somewhat of an entitlement air to their way of thinking. Baker discriminates, court, aclu and same sex couple are not.

    White guy shoots black in self defense and acquitted, RACIST.

    Marauding groups of blacks attack, maim and kill whites, NOT ON FUCKING PEEP.

    light skinned shooter starts taking out co-workers. CLEARLY RACE MOTIVATED.

    MUSLIM / ISLAMIST shoots up army base, Work Place Violence.

    Terrorist blows up train station. LETS NOT JUDGE ALL OF ISLAM BY ACTIONS OF A FEW

    Mentally unstable 20 somethings go on mass killings. ALL GUNS NEED TO BE REGISTERED AND ACCOUNTED FOR.

    YEPPERS somethings wrong and it sure as shit ain't no Baker in CO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    late 2012 and 2013 members. seems the newer members have somewhat of an entitlement air to their way of thinking.
    Seems some of the older members think they are better than the newer members just because they happened upon a website 1st.
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