CIA: Saudi directly implicated to 9/11 attack

[ChunkyMonkey]

Double post

[KestrelBike]

So let's say that missing 28 pages directly implicates the government state of SA, what then? Or own gov "leaders" wouldn't do shit, because Bush & Co who actually invaded countries obviously didn't do anything. And I think our gov wouldn't/couldn't do anything against SA because of a paralyzingly fear of OPEC and threatening our oil supply. I think our country would be terribly vulnerable if we threatened the supply with delays brought on by any shutoff by sanctions/destroyed-infrastructure/war in general. I've heard it was congresses hand wringings that killed our chances to drill the shit out of Iraqi oil after the invasion, but still it was very plain to see that just because a country is occupied does not mean that the oil spigots miraculously burst open.

[<MADDOG>]

How is this news again?

From my readings, the Wahhabis' have been exporting terrorism for decades!

[Great-Kazoo]

So let's say that missing 28 pages directly implicates the government state of SA, what then? Or own gov "leaders" wouldn't do shit, because Bush & Co who actually invaded countries obviously didn't do anything. And I think our gov wouldn't/couldn't do anything against SA because of a paralyzingly fear of OPEC and threatening our oil supply. I think our country would be terribly vulnerable if we threatened the supply with delays brought on by any shutoff by sanctions/destroyed-infrastructure/war in general. I've heard it was congresses hand wringings that killed our chances to drill the shit out of Iraqi oil after the invasion, but still it was very plain to see that just because a country is occupied does not mean that the oil spigots miraculously burst open.

Once again, America has enough petro based products under our soil to keep us going as long, if not longer than that of SA. We are in bidding wars with Russia & China over OPEC oil. China & russia have made big inroads in Africa for oil. Yet we still suck on OPECS teat while ignoring other venues for Oil & gas.

Part of it was the decision, or lack of by all "coalition" parties involved to not divide Iraq up in to 3 entities, Shiite, Sunni, Kurds. That was on the table once saddam was no longer in power. Objections from numerous countries, especially turkey (kurds) quashed that idea. Kurds (supporters of the iraq invasion) were / are considered terrorist in turkey based on their issues with the T. .gov.

[KestrelBike]

Once again, America has enough petro based products under our soil to keep us going as long, if not longer than that of SA. We are in bidding wars with Russia & China over OPEC oil. China & russia have made big inroads in Africa for oil. Yet we still suck on OPECS teat while ignoring other venues for Oil & gas.

Right and I don't dispute that, but could there be a problem in the amount of time it would take to build the infrastructure to drill and refine the oil? If some of that oil is shale (sp?) perhaps that would have made things even more difficult, especially 12+ years ago? Or are we talking resources already primed and ready to draw production from (Texas?). Excuse my ignorance, but I am interested to know.

Besides that, one reason I could think of for continuing business with OPEC is simply to keep all of our resources as a reserve. Keep borrowing money to buy ME oil and ignore 'intangible' debt and save all of our locally available oil producing capabilities for when the ME finally runs out or for a rainy day.

[nynco]

If Muslims were in the streets protesting / denouncing the 9/11 attacks, then yes some humbling conceding might be in order. HOWEVER not 1 imam, mullah, or middle eastern / Muslim leaning nation, condemned the attacks. Even worse was the lack of outrage, from clerics, here in America. Beheadings on line , silence.
Yet after warnings to evacuate villages where Known terrorist leaders were hiding, before bombing them.. Once we / coalition forces attacked. The uproar from Islamist, here and abroad was defening.
Islamist, jihadist, etc. Have only one goal, the suppression and elimination of any thing, other than Islam, Sharia law.

Actually that is false they did condemn them until the Bush administration started to use 911 as an excuse to go on the war path.

[ChunkyMonkey]

Actually that is false they did condemn them until the Bush administration started to use 911 as an excuse to go on the war path.

The strongest and fastest condemnation came from The Kingdom of Saudi too.. yep..
Arafat 'horrified' at the attack but he is passing out candies to the celebrating people on the street.. yep..

If you venture out to the muslim world, 9/11 is still celebrated until today. You want a real view of the real world out there, stop watching the mainstream media here.


CELEBRATION OF 9/11 in Indonesia..
http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-67276-Indonesia-militants-praise-911hijackers
Every November, tshirt showing the burning twin towers are sold openly in street vendors and in the mall.

While president Arroyo of Philippines sent condolences, the Muslim Moro are throwing party and fireworks in the South.


The main newspaper in Cairo published the following:
[QUOTE]"In all honesty, and without beating around the bush: I am happy about [what happened to] America; I am happy about the great number of American dead. Let them accuse me of whatever they want. It doesn't matter and it does not lessen the happiness and excitement that overwhelm me. No one can make me take back what I say, no matter what their claims and explanations. All the innocent citizens who were killed are victims of America's barbarism and terror, ranging over half a century… Count up the number killed by American weapons in the world and compare it to the number of those killed in the US; you will find that the number of [American dead] is much less than one percent [of the latter]. I have a right to rejoice; I have a right to be filled with happiness; the Americans are finally tasting the bitterness of death."

Ahmad Murad, Al-Arabi (Egypt), September 16, 2001 [/QUOTE]



Of course only a twisted liberal could forget the live coverage after the attack...




Like I said, they are allowed to lie to the kaffirs.

[Kraven251]

As long as we lack the will to do what someone else will do, we will not be able to defeat an enemy. Our leaders lacked the will to identify friends as enemies, lacked the will to finish what they started in a myriad of wars/conflicts, and have time and time again convinced our allies to not take actions that are ultimately in our best interests all around.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Actually that is false they did condemn them until the Bush administration started to use 911 as an excuse to go on the war path.

Nope. Very few actually condemned the attacks outright, most offered mealy-mouthed platitudes while saying the attacks shouldn't be attributed to all Muslims.

[nynco]

Nope. Very few actually condemned the attacks outright, most offered mealy-mouthed platitudes while saying the attacks shouldn't be attributed to all Muslims.

I remember specifically in Iran of all places that there were solidarity candle vigils for America. It was the time of the mass amount of student uprisings. I actually thought the mass protests and uprisings were going to topple the gov of Iran, so too did the gov of Iran worry about that too. That all ceases once Bush messed it up with his axis of evil posturing. It gave the Iranian authorities all the excuse they needed to brutally crack down.