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    Default Get in line, Register those guns and magazines

    I would not do it. I did not do it in CA and I will not do it here if registration becomes a law in CO.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...never-have-to/

    Connecticut residents waited in long lines on Thursday to register their firearms and high-capacity magazines before the state’s new gun laws go into effect on Jan. 1, 2014.
    WFSB-TV reports that a “long-line of people” stood outside the Public Safety Building in Middletown, Conn., all day to register semi-automatic rifles and high-capacity magazines. Several residents were upset with the “unconstitutional” requirement, while at least one person didn’t appear to mind.
    “I understand why they’re doing it, but I don’t think it’s constitutional,” resident Scott Boccio told WFSB-TV as he was registering his guns.
    Charles Gillette, who was registering magazines, told the news station that he would have a problem with it if the state was trying to ban the magazines or firearms, but said “if they want to just know where they are, that’s fine with me.”
    However, not one gun owner who was registering firearms or magazines said they think the new laws will reduce gun violence.
    “If people are going to do things illegally, they’re not going to be here registering their gun,” Jared Krajewski, another resident registering firearms, said.
    For now, in Connecticut, the law is the law. The new gun control measures were put into place following the tragic school shooting in Newtown, Conn.
    State police Lt. Paul Vance said that gun owners must fill our forms completely and some may require a notary.


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    "if they want to just know where they are, that’s fine with me."




    I bet these guys just wanted to know where all the Jews lived.... I suppose some of them thought that was just fine too. At first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray1970 View Post
    "if they want to just know where they are, that’s fine with me."




    I bet these guys just wanted to know where all the Jews lived.... I suppose some of them thought that was just fine too. At first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wctriumph View Post
    I would not do it. I did not do it in CA and I will not do it here if registration becomes a law in CO.
    Then you get to fear every police interaction where an unregistered item is present. Thats the trade you make there. Not like you could actually use an off registry banned item once the registry is used to collect them.

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    Merl, I'm not completely sure I'm following or 100% agree.

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    Then you get to fear every police interaction where an unregistered item is present. Thats the trade you make there.
    How often does this happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by merl View Post
    Not like you could actually use an off registry banned item once the registry is used to collect them.
    Why? No ranges right now are checking what you bring and use for magazines to ensure they aren't post July 1 mags. Most would probably silently cheer you if they thought you were.


    I guess by the time you need to use whatever it is in question, worry about laws and jail and court are a distant second in terms of immediate concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski View Post
    Merl, I'm not completely sure I'm following or 100% agree.

    How often does this happen?
    Back when I was shooting on public land it was not uncommon for LE to drop by. Traffic stops do happen as well. Then we get into the See something Say something mentality, get along with all your neighbors?


    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski View Post
    Why? No ranges right now are checking what you bring and use for magazines to ensure they aren't post July 1 mags. Most would probably silently cheer you if they thought you were.
    Lets ignore the mags as that is rather difficult to enforce. Say you have a complete ban on semi-auto rifles, what range is going to let you use one? None will because they don't want to get shut down.
    Thinking more about the registered serialized gun side of it as that is the easier side to verify with a nice little database every LE can access. Registering mags, well if you didn't register any and have some there might be trouble.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski View Post
    I guess by the time you need to use whatever it is in question, worry about laws and jail and court are a distant second in terms of immediate concern.
    Some truth to this but would you think twice about Biden's advice and opt for a good old side by side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by merl View Post
    Back when I was shooting on public land it was not uncommon for LE to drop by. Traffic stops do happen as well. Then we get into the See something Say something mentality, get along with all your neighbors?

    Lets ignore the mags as that is rather difficult to enforce. Say you have a complete ban on semi-auto rifles, what range is going to let you use one? None will because they don't want to get shut down.
    Thinking more about the registered serialized gun side of it as that is the easier side to verify with a nice little database every LE can access. Registering mags, well if you didn't register any and have some there might be trouble.
    Or, maybe our LE don't bother to enforce it like they don't with the magazines. Maybe I save my semi-autos to shoot in neighboring states. Maybe I'm LE (I'm not). Even California isn't at a complete ban on semi-autos, so, I don't want to go down that road just yet, but obviously tons of possibilities with all this. What if we must register but not ban? Is every range going to verify that? Or are cops doing spot checks? They are under as strained resources as anyone, so this may not be the bang for the buck that traffic stops are. Am I friendly with all my neighbors? Even if I'm not, how do they know what I may or may not own?

    The traffic stop is a decent question as well. I had started to write about how I have had one full pat-down, on a traffic stop in NM after I offered that I had a CCW.
    Since that time, I'm told we really shouldn't even offer this info anymore, but it has been too long since my original CCW when this was the common advice. (I'm due for a refresher in another year or two).

    Quote Originally Posted by merl View Post
    Some truth to this but would you think twice about Biden's advice and opt for a good old side by side?
    Not walking around out and about. $0.02
    At home? Maybe, but I don't own one at this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merl View Post
    Then we get into the See something Say something mentality, get along with all your neighbors?
    Or your parents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacklabel View Post
    Or your parents.
    Or your in-laws....

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    Charles Gillette, who was registering magazines, told the news station that he would have a problem with it if the state was trying to ban the magazines or firearms, but said “if they want to just know where they are, that’s fine with me.”


    Any what public service/safety interest is being satisfied by them knowing where they are? Does knowledge of a gun's location prevent crime?

    The only reason why they want to know where the guns are is so they can take them. Non-compliance with confiscation will be a serious offense (Stalin made it a capital offense, in NY the SAFE Act imposes longer sentences than sexual assault). CT gun owners have just documented they are gun owners and documented each of their weapons. There is no where to run and no where to hide.

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