Magpul is really doing it. They're moving.

[nynco]

Nathan reread what I wrote. The DRIVER of the car got arrested because someone in the car had pot on them. Stupid NY state law that should be unconstitutional in my opinion. Should you as a parent be arrested for what your teen kid does? Well in relation to drug laws, they can arrest you in some states for possession even if someone else has it and not you. Its insane...

[nathan0259]

Nathan reread what I wrote. The DRIVER of the car got arrested because someone in the car had pot on them. Stupid NY state law that should be unconstitutional in my opinion. Should you as a parent be arrested for what your teen kid does? Well in relation to drug laws, they can arrest you in some states for possession even if someone else has it and not you. Its insane...

You said this:
"Ok, so I know nothing about friends who have never been violent or committed a crime who went to jail or had their lives ruined for pot."

So yeah... I didn't say anything about your family member car situation. I dont agree with your logic on that topic either but I dont talk about folks families so long as they dont talk about mine.

[clublights]

Nathan reread what I wrote. The DRIVER of the car got arrested because someone in the car had pot on them. Stupid NY state law that should be unconstitutional in my opinion. Should you as a parent be arrested for what your teen kid does? Well in relation to drug laws, they can arrest you in some states for possession even if someone else has it and not you. Its insane...

how do I KNOW there is more to this story ....


Probably cuz I've seen an episode or two of COPS......

Lemme guess they got pulled over cop smelled weed in the car .. yanked em both out searched car found weed .. no one would confess to ownership of said pot.. cop arrested everyone in the car


that how it REALLY went down ?


Moral of that story ?
Don't hang with people that smoke weed.. or at least don't hang with ones that won't own up to their shit.

[Jer]

Nathan reread what I wrote. The DRIVER of the car got arrested because someone in the car had pot on them. Stupid NY state law that should be unconstitutional in my opinion. Should you as a parent be arrested for what your teen kid does? Well in relation to drug laws, they can arrest you in some states for possession even if someone else has it and not you. Its insane...

Yes. If you're not responsible for raising your child properly, who is?

[Sawin]

Yes. If you're not responsible for raising your child properly, who is?

While I do agree with you that the raising of children properly is the responsibility of the parents, I can't agree with you that a parent should be arrested for crimes their teenager (or kid of any age) commits. IMO, The kid needs to bare the weight of the consequences themselves, and the parents need to allow the consequences to be dealt for their child's own good. If the parent is a criminal themselves, then seperate charges should be filed upon them too, and perhaps they're looked into by the child protective services folks for the sake of their kids, but arrested for something they did not commit and were not an accomplice to? I say no. That's going too far.

[Jer]

While I do agree with you that the raising of children properly is the responsibility of the parents, I can't agree with you that a parent should be arrested for crimes their teenager (or kid of any age) commits. IMO, The kid needs to bare the weight of the consequences themselves, and the parents need to allow the consequences to be dealt for their child's own good. If the parent is a criminal themselves, then seperate charges should be filed upon them too, and perhaps they're looked into by the child protective services folks for the sake of their kids, but arrested for something they did not commit and were not an accomplice to? I say no. That's going too far.

So you think people may give 2nd thought to reproducing or give some thought to the decisions they make in raising them? Wouldn't this make society a better/safer place for everyone. Isn't that why we create laws these days?

[Sawin]

So you think people may give 2nd thought to reproducing or give some thought to the decisions they make in raising them? Wouldn't this make society a better/safer place for everyone. Isn't that why we create laws these days?

That is precisely the problem. Government officials with exactly that mindset are proposing and passing new laws at an increasingly frequent pace, infringing on individual rights and freedoms and taking away personal responsibility. I am 100% for individual rights and personal responsibility.

The truth of the matter is, certain elements of society do not give the 1st thought to reproducing or raising their children, so why would they give a 2nd thought because the kid might misbehave and get on the wrong side of the law? The parents need to start the beginning and choose to have kids, choose to raise them properly, choose to give them freedom and the responsibility to deal with their own consequences, etc... It's not the job of the government of laws to baby sit us, but the left sure want it to be that way. "They know best" *sarcasm*....