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The simple fact is that Denver Dems want this to happen here.
Registration ... FOID cards ... more and more government control means they can trip up the law abiding and bring down their jackboots on necks.
These are hateful evil people that want to hurt the people.
Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".
"Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
"Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
-Penn Jillette
A World Without Guns <- Great Read!
Now that is the point that really bugs the hell out of me. The out-right lying on these 4473 forms are felonies being committed and although "they" (the proper LEO's) are or should be well aware of these crimes being committed, why aren't they following up on them. These asses (Legislators) should insist that the laws must be observed, followed through with prosecution if at all possible. Why fart around making these laws if they fail to actively enforce them??Originally Posted by Rucker61
The 4473 is a federal form, not a state form. The local DA's believe prosecution of fraud committed on these forms is a federal offense, not a state offense. However, you aren't going to get a U.S. Attorney to bother with this type of lowly crime.Now that is the point that really bugs the hell out of me. The out-right lying on these 4473 forms are felonies being committed and although "they" (the proper LEO's) are or should be well aware of these crimes being committed, why aren't they following up on them. These asses (Legislators) should insist that the laws must be observed, followed through with prosecution if at all possible. Why fart around making these laws if they fail to actively enforce them??
“Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson
A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'
That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
I think HB 13-1229 makes not following that law a misdemeanor. Still, even less likely to follow through. After all, they've made the CBI BGC self funding, allowing that budgetary line item to be moved elsewhere under the radar. There is no way they're going to give back the money, for either 1228 or 1229.
Te occidere possunt sed te edere non possunt nefas est
Sane person with a better sight picture
Link? I'm too lazy to look it up...
Light a fire for a man, and he'll be warm for a day, light a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life...
Discussion is an exchange of intelligence. Argument is an exchange of
ignorance. Ever found a liberal that you can have a discussion with?
No it doesn't. HB 13-1229 requires the completion of a background check, but has zero language in it about the 4473 form, about lying or omitting on the form, or anything to do with the form at all.
The crux of the arguments have been that a person who is knowingly prohibited, fills out a 4473 and lies on it, then is prohibited from buying the firearm, why isn't there any enforcement of the attempted fraud, which is the falsification on the federal form 4473.
“Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson
A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'
That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
Because as much as 99% of those rejected by background checks are false positives ... if they started arresting (or even hassling) people that were perfectly legal but triggered a false positive they'd have a much harder time hiding that fact from the people that BGCs are a sham (and might end up with BGCs in general challenged in court where they could be found to be a significant infringement of the 2A and then done away with).
Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".
"Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
"Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
-Penn Jillette
A World Without Guns <- Great Read!
I have looked into a few rejected background checks; some to assist the person to be able to successfully overturn the denial (back when it was up to the person to prove no conviction. Now CBI must prove conviction) and attempted a few criminal filings of falsified 4473's. I was not able to get a local DA to charge, based upon the belief that the 4473 is a federal form. You lie on a state form to the state and I have your ass all day, but apparently, I can't get you for lying on a federal form.
“Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson
A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'
That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
According to the CBI's year end stats, there were a total of 32 denials on private sales.Given an appeal success rate of roughly 70%, that means the new law kept a whopping 9 people from illegally obtaining a weapon.Maybe, assuming they didn't just go buy one illegally. All of the others would have been stopped by the previous law.
Light a fire for a man, and he'll be warm for a day, light a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life...
Discussion is an exchange of intelligence. Argument is an exchange of
ignorance. Ever found a liberal that you can have a discussion with?
The 32 denials is just December.
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