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    I can only imagine what a jury would do with someone who sprayed that nasty wasp spray (which I'm sure their lawyer would point out the nerve agent connection, likely whether or not it was that kind) into the face of some poor, misunderstood and underprivileged punk. Those folks win lawsuits in some states because they were shot by the homeowner, after they admit they broke into the person's home! So if they get to court and tell some sob story about their life being ruined because they were blinded, I'll bet you that they win in MANY more cases than they should, which in my opinion would be any. However, if you simply use a .45 (or other caliber of your choice) to stop the "fear for your life" then there's no perp there to sob for the jury.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troublco View Post
    I can only imagine what a jury would do with someone who sprayed that nasty wasp spray (which I'm sure their lawyer would point out the nerve agent connection, likely whether or not it was that kind) into the face of some poor, misunderstood and underprivileged punk. Those folks win lawsuits in some states because they were shot by the homeowner, after they admit they broke into the person's home! So if they get to court and tell some sob story about their life being ruined because they were blinded, I'll bet you that they win in MANY more cases than they should, which in my opinion would be any. However, if you simply use a .45 (or other caliber of your choice) to stop the "fear for your life" then there's no perp there to sob for the jury.
    Can't say it much better than that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SA Friday View Post
    Some of those chemical agents are sub-derivatives of sarin; a nerve agent.
    This, I did not know. I love being the indirect recipient of all of your training. Every week I get at least one more piece of awesome knowledge from you. Keep it up! (I need it.)

    Quote Originally Posted by SA Friday View Post
    Some people can't let go of their belief in humanity, society, higher powers, whatever... and see reality. They rely soley on the kindness of others as their only defense in life, as do we all to a certain extent. It works out most of the time, but you only have to be wrong once. Terminal victim attitude. I hope it works out for them, or they survive to learn the reality of the big ugly in the world. It's all you can do.
    Agreed.

    Sadly, I seen cases where these folks who "respect life so much that they would never consider owning a gun to protect their lives or the lives of their family" end up injured themselves or losing a family member. But I guess that's alright since the criminal wasn't seriously harmed.

    This "run away from the bad guy" attitude some folks have disturbs me. I can imagine one of these folks outrunning their spouse or kids and letting them fend for themselves against the criminals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bellavite1 View Post
    If I close my eyes and pretend they are not there will they go away?
    That only works for those middle of the night Zombie attacks.
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    Better than nothing I guess. I'd rather dose em with a few 230gr sleeping pills so I know he won't get a lucky shot in on me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troublco View Post
    I can only imagine what a jury would do with someone who sprayed that nasty wasp spray (which I'm sure their lawyer would point out the nerve agent connection, likely whether or not it was that kind) into the face of some poor, misunderstood and underprivileged punk. Those folks win lawsuits in some states because they were shot by the homeowner, after they admit they broke into the person's home! So if they get to court and tell some sob story about their life being ruined because they were blinded, I'll bet you that they win in MANY more cases than they should, which in my opinion would be any. However, if you simply use a .45 (or other caliber of your choice) to stop the "fear for your life" then there's no perp there to sob for the jury.

    Big +1. It's always better when there is only one side to a story. In this scenario the good guy/home owner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Circuits View Post
    Wasp spray is fine, as long as you combine it with a lighter.


    My wife used to be a card carrying liberal democrat... "Why do you need all of those GUNS?"....Now she has her own .45...."When are we going to the range again?"...

    She carries a canister of OC/CS spray at work, because she works on a University of Colorado campus, but her .45 is always with her elsewhere....and lately she sounds a lot more libertarian than Democrap or Republican't....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post


    My wife used to be a card carrying liberal democrat... "Why do you need all of those GUNS?"....Now she has her own .45...."When are we going to the range again?"...

    She carries a canister of OC/CS spray at work, because she works on a University of Colorado campus, but her .45 is always with her elsewhere....and lately she sounds a lot more libertarian than Democrap or Republican't....
    glad you brought her to enlightenment. poor demotards living in their sheltered lives are just waiting to be plucked. some of them can be saved!

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