I was mugged?!?!

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

A knife over 5 inches? Sure it wasn't a washed up Australian actor coming for you?

Actually surprised they stayed that far away from you.

30 feet, 21 feet, 10 yards, whatever, if the guy has a knife and you pull your gun, you order him to go away and tell him you have gun. If he advances, you drop him. I'd drop his buddies if they did anything but run away or surrender.

3v1, you had better have figured out how to shoot from flat on your back if they rush you.

Any chance of dropping to urban prone and shooting from under the car? Take out some legs/ankles. Might have been your best option if they had a gun.

Double good fortune that your wife was inside. Mine would have had "General Hospital" on the DVR playing. Changing the shells out? That's focus, and so much for the sound of a shotgun sending guys fleeing.

I carry an old wallet with fake credit card offers and 25 in cash in my weak side rear pocket. If a wallet doesn't satiate them, things are going down hill fast.

Stay safe and watch your six.

[iamhunter]

Any chance of dropping to urban prone and shooting from under the car? Take out some legs/ankles. Might have been your best option if they had a gun.

You have the ability to drop urban prone and shoot moving 4" targets in a high adrenaline situation?

Not saying you don't.... just asking.

[KevDen2005]

I think the best option if they did produce a gun (even though I would say a knife would definitely get them shot if it were me) is to shoot and move, not lie down and attempt to shoot small targets that are moving to come and kill you. Just my thought, any others?

[BigBear]

Come on really? There was no action movie moves needed. They were beyond hand reach and I had them drawn down on. To me, they were no longer a threat. Why would I jump down and start blasting away below the car? (Course, that could be another scenario to add to the list of "sideshooting" instead of aiming down the sights)..

Our aim is to NOT have to fire the gun... not to blast away at anything that insults our "proper and common" sense.


Enough with the "ifs"... Mod can feel free to lock and delete as needed.

To answer Kev... no, you do not want to be on your back on a 3v1 no matter how well trained you are.

[iamhunter]

Come on really? There was no action movie moves needed. They were beyond hand reach and I had them drawn down on. To me, they were no longer a threat. Why would I jump down and start blasting away below the car? (Course, that could be another scenario to add to the list of "sideshooting" instead of aiming down the sights)..

Our aim is to NOT have to fire the gun... not to blast away at anything that insults our "proper and common" sense.


Enough with the "ifs"... Mod can feel free to lock and delete as needed.

To answer Kev... no, you do not want to be on your back on a 3v1 no matter how well trained you are.

You put it perfectly BigBear.

As for the 3v1 thing... It's always, awlays bad.

I saw a video once from a cop's dash camera.

The cop was a seriously large dude. Probably 6'6", well built, and fully geared.

He stopped a car for stolen plates and got out with out calling in backup. Three mexicans got out of the car. Each of them easily half his size or less.

Anyways, business proceeded as usual, until one of the guys tackled him at the legs, another at the torso, and the third pulled out a small revolver and proceeded to empty all six rounds into the cop.

He laid there dead until the station figured out something was wrong.

Just goes to show you that no matter how big, or strong, or how well trained you are, being outnumbered is NEVER a good situation to be in.

[Irving]

Easy BigBear, no need to delete this whole thread for one or two behind the curve comments. Don't delete this thread please.

[iamhunter]

Easy BigBear, no need to delete this whole thread for one or two behind the curve comments. Don't delete this thread please.

Nah, just delete it because stuart asked you not to

just kidding.

[BigBear]

Sorry, hard to calm down when I get to deal with idiots all day. No, not on this site. I'm talking about work. I work in a mapping/blueprinting division of the utilities department... here's a conversation that took place less than an hour ago:

Me: Hello Sir, what can I do for you today.
Them: I need a map.
Me: (Well duh) Well, you came to the right place. What sort of map and what of?
Them: I need an ariel of such and such intersection.
Me: An ariel? Ok, do you need a topographic, contour, or actual satellite pciture?
Them: Uhh... anyway you can just send up a plane to take the picture? I think a satellite would be too far away.
Me:... (Really? Dude....) Yes sir, we can get as close as you need. As a matter of fact, I can read the date off a dime in your palm from 200 miles out.
Them: ... I don't know, that might a little too close.
Me: ... (wow)... Ok Sir, let me pull some images up and we can go from there. What TYPE of map do you need?
Them: A ariel, one from the sky.
Me: Yes Sir, I understand that but... what information do you need on the map, scape heights, road names, dirt composites, utility mains, etc?
Them: Umm... I don't know, let me call my boss. Can I use your phone?
Me: ... (I see the cell in your coveralls chest pocket friend...) Yes Sir.

[Irving]

Did you tell him to try the internet? Or is that too much of a conflict of interest?

[iamhunter]

Sorry, hard to calm down when I get to deal with idiots all day. No, not on this site. I'm talking about work. I work in a mapping/blueprinting division of the utilities department... here's a conversation that took place less than an hour ago:

Me: Hello Sir, what can I do for you today.
Them: I need a map.
Me: (Well duh) Well, you came to the right place. What sort of map and what of?
Them: I need an ariel of such and such intersection.
Me: An ariel? Ok, do you need a topographic, contour, or actual satellite pciture?
Them: Uhh... anyway you can just send up a plane to take the picture? I think a satellite would be too far away.
Me:... (Really? Dude....) Yes sir, we can get as close as you need. As a matter of fact, I can read the date off a dime in your palm from 200 miles out.
Them: ... I don't know, that might a little too close.
Me: ... (wow)... Ok Sir, let me pull some images up and we can go from there. What TYPE of map do you need?
Them: A ariel, one from the sky.
Me: Yes Sir, I understand that but... what information do you need on the map, scape heights, road names, dirt composites, utility mains, etc?
Them: Umm... I don't know, let me call my boss. Can I use your phone?
Me: ... (I see the cell in your coveralls chest pocket friend...) Yes Sir.

Wow.

I don't know if I would get mad or just feel sorry for him.