Ukraine Footage,,, is real

[Ridge]

Obama is gutting our military to pre WW2 levels

Actually, it's only gone as far as SecDef suggesting it. And Congress would never approve it, since they would get destroyed over it back home for the unemployment of members as well as lost money from closed weapons contracts.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/mil...-levels-n37086

[SRG720]

Wow Tor, such strong emotions/foaming at the mouth over Russia's involvement in Ukraine. What exactly is your interest in that part of the world anyway?

I bet CNN isnt telling you that the so called super-democratic 'good guys' that took over in Kiev are a bunch of radical neo-Fascists whose first order of business was not to work to repair Ukraine's economy but instead to restrict the usage of the Russian language nationwide. Thats an interesting set of priorities for a fledgling government.

[ChunkyMonkey]

Collection of photos and videos from the riot to the current Crimea

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...-Videos*-ONLY/


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[Ridge]

Because no other government has ever overreacted to a perceived threat. Ukraine's former president is a big time Russian sympathizer, and is in fact hiding out in Russia while screaming that Parliament's firing him was illegal.

[SRG720]

Im also curious how exactly Russian involvement in Crimea is seen as an 'invasion' when those forces have a legal right to be stationed there and have been for the last 250 some odd years anyway?

[SRG720]

well if crowds of thousands were screaming that they'd kill you and your family would you not leave either or would you allow yourself to to be killed out of principle? Yanukovych may be a shithead moron that stole alot of money but hey the people deserve the leaders they elect. Kravchuk was bad, Kuchma was bad, pro-west Yuschenko was bad, Yanukovych got thrown out, im betting these trends wont end anytime soon.

[Ridge]

Im also curious how exactly Russian involvement in Crimea is seen as an 'invasion' when those forces have a legal right to be stationed there and have been for the last 250 some odd years anyway?

Russia gave Crimea to Ukraine decades ago. Ukraine has allowed them a port there. I'd say that armed units storming around seizing government buildings, transport hubs and cutting communication grids doesn't fall under the purview of that agreement.

[SRG720]

Russia gave Crimea to Ukraine decades ago. Ukraine has allowed them a port there. I'd say that armed units storming around seizing government buildings, transport hubs and cutting communication grids doesn't fall under the purview of that agreement.

Yeah and the lease agreement for Sevastopol was extended to 2042 by the now ousted Yanukovych govt. It stands to reason the radical ultra-nationalists now in charge in Kiev would tear up that agreement. Hmm, I wonder what Putin's reaction to this would be????

[Ronin13]

Im also curious how exactly Russian involvement in Crimea is seen as an 'invasion' when those forces have a legal right to be stationed there and have been for the last 250 some odd years anyway?

Incorrect. "Crimea was annexed by the Russian Empire during the reign of Catherine The Great in 1783 and remained part of Russia until 1954 when it was transferred to Ukraine under the then Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev." Source
Crimea is an autonomous parliamentary republic of Ukraine, governed by Ukrainian law. If you don't think a growing conflict in the region isn't a matter of concern, you obviously don't realize that US diplomats have supported and defended Ukrainian sovereignty historically since Ukraine became an independent nation in 1991. Not to mention that Russia's invasion of the region is in direct violation of international law and UN Charter. This could spiral into an ever expanding conflict.

[SRG720]

Yeah and the lease agreement for Sevastopol was extended to 2042 by the now ousted Yanukovych govt. It stands to reason the radical ultra-nationalists now in charge in Kiev would tear up that agreement. Hmm, I wonder what Putin's reaction to this would be????

Russia and Ukraine decades ago were all republics of what was then the Soviet Union. Ukraine as a sovereign nation has never existed before 1991 fyi