They both seem like the ends of the branches are thorns. Normally a tree has a bud or something at the ends of each branch and sub-branch... these just end in big sharp pointy things. The leaves do look like that in thee closeup you posted. I think perhaps the two trees are two different varietys? The leaves were shaped similar but have different texture.
So getting down on your hands and knees is not an option when cutting out the seedlings that sprout up underneath these buggers.



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