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    Quote Originally Posted by .455_Hunter View Post
    Yup- Concealed is concealed. No different than ignoring the "No outside food" rule and bringing in your own box of Milk Duds in your wife's purse.
    they should change the sign: "no outside means of personal protection allowed"

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkymonkey1111 View Post
    they should change the sign: "no outside means of personal protection allowed"
    The truth is all "no ccw" signs/policies are politically motivated (and I firmly believe anyone that tells you otherwise is outright lying).

    The signs really mean "No Conservatives Allowed".
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    The truth is all "no ccw" signs/policies are politically motivated (and I firmly believe anyone that tells you otherwise is outright lying).
    The signs really mean "No Conservatives Allowed".
    I never thought of it this way. However from this point forward when I see a No CCW sign that's exactly how I'll read it.

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    Any news on the proceedings? I haven't heard anything, can someone tell me how things are progressing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    The truth is all "no ccw" signs/policies are politically motivated (and I firmly believe anyone that tells you otherwise is outright lying).

    The signs really mean "No Conservatives Allowed".
    Disagree. Sit through a few meetings about liability of an accident and your frame of reference will shift, especially when it comes to a business.
    Last edited by Irving; 04-04-2014 at 09:50.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Disagree. Sit through a few meetings about liability of an accident and your frame of reference will switch, especially when it comes to a business.
    This.. with a close family member that does HR and liability policy for living, their whole thing is how to remove liability in any way they can. If there was ever a shooting, they can point to their dumb little sign and say "See.. We did what we thought was reasonable.."
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    Those menacing signs with pictures of knives and guns all over them, I get so scared seeing those at entrances to places that I will not even go in the establishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asmo View Post
    This.. with a close family member that does HR and liability policy for living, their whole thing is how to remove liability in any way they can. If there was ever a shooting, they can point to their dumb little sign and say "See.. We did what we thought was reasonable.."
    This is a question for you and Irving (If either of you know):
    Would a sign like this help or hurt your liability as a business owner?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Disagree. Sit through a few meetings about liability of an accident and your frame of reference will shift, especially when it comes to a business.
    I don't buy that. There has never been a single business that has been sued because they didn't ban CCW on their premises.

    Sure, "liability" is the bullshit excuse given (and I'm willing to concede that some business owners may be duped by these claims), but all these signs are solely political statements against gun owners, pure and simple.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
    -Friedrich Nietzsche

    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
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    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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