Your "Go to home defense SHTF firearm!

[Irving]

Of course it is, especially up close. How incapacitating is birdshot though, that is the issue. I don't like getting shot with airsoft, it f'ing hurts, but it's not incapacitating.

[Marlin]

Well, I guess if you show up at a shoot,, We could do an experiment..

[Irving]

Well, I guess if you show up at a shoot,, We could do an experiment..

I've seriously considered it. I've been hit in the chest and neck from ricochets of birdshot before and I'd take that over an airsoft any day. I realize that a ricochet has lost nearly all energy though.

[buffalobo]

First line is Buddy the blue heeler. Different guns in different rooms, depends on where I or wife are when alerted. Primarily short barrel 20 ga. and whatever handgun we happen to be wearing or if in bed what is in bed holster mounted to bedframe. One of the ways I got the wife to take interest in home defense was to convince her to practice with me clearing house. She enjoys it and regularly comes up with new tactics and will even rearrange the furniture for different scenarios.

Side note, she moves the furniture every couple months anyway. Always has, don't know why. Drives me nuts. Leave it alone so I can move around without lights. She says for cleaning and she just gets tired of always being the same. Now days I don't mind cause if I come home and furniture is rearranged then I know she will suggest we run drills. If it is her idea then if something(lamp, vase etc.) gets broken I'm not in the dog house for couple days.

[iamhunter]

Security system, giant dog, and then a Mossberg with a Glock 21 for Backup.

5.56 is a little overkill for interior home defense in my opinion...

For a 1v1 scenario a shotgun offers much better room for stress error (you only have to aim in his general direction)
less possibility for unwanted bullet penetration (through walls and what not)
and a huge intimidation factor that goes along with it...

The downside to a shotgun is that if he gets to close, the shotgun becomes unwieldy due to barrel length.

In that scenario (which I doubt would happen)
I'd whip out my Glock 21 and let him have fun with some .45 ACP.

[BigBear]

First line is Buddy the blue heeler. Different guns in different rooms, depends on where I or wife are when alerted. Primarily short barrel 20 ga. and whatever handgun we happen to be wearing or if in bed what is in bed holster mounted to bedframe. One of the ways I got the wife to take interest in home defense was to convince her to practice with me clearing house. She enjoys it and regularly comes up with new tactics and will even rearrange the furniture for different scenarios.

Side note, she moves the furniture every couple months anyway. Always has, don't know why. Drives me nuts. Leave it alone so I can move around without lights. She says for cleaning and she just gets tired of always being the same. Now days I don't mind cause if I come home and furniture is rearranged then I know she will suggest we run drills. If it is her idea then if something(lamp, vase etc.) gets broken I'm not in the dog house for couple days.

This is awesome!!!

My dog is Buddy the Boxer!

[Irving]

I've got zero experience with .223, so I would assume that it penetrates more, but the simple explanation of "light weight round at high speeds breaks up, like shooting into water" is enough to convince me. coloccw sent me a video where guys send some rounds through some drywall, but the video leaves out all the import parts when they get to .223.

[Marlin]

I've got zero experience with .223, so I would assume that it penetrates more, but the simple explanation of "light weight round at high speeds breaks up, like shooting into water" is enough to convince me. coloccw sent me a video where guys send some rounds through some drywall, but the video leaves out all the import parts when they get to .223.

Well, if you can round up the materials and get them hauled away,, I'm limited in both capacities at the moment, I can build a wall to shoot at and do our own little experiments...

[Irving]

Thanks for the offer, but I've seen the results on box o' truth that are better documented than on that video I watched today.

[Bailey Guns]

The FBI pretty much did the definitive .223 vs handgun penetration tests. It used to be on the FirearmsTactical.com website but I can't find it any longer.