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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtrulz View Post
    He spent all that money and still has crappy axles. Another rig built to look cool. Lots of money in lockers and gears in axles that you shouldnt run anything over a 31 on.
    Actually those are decent axles. Easily handle up to 35s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtrulz View Post
    He spent all that money and still has crappy axles. Another rig built to look cool. Lots of money in lockers and gears in axles that you shouldnt run anything over a 31 on.
    Yeah not true, the 8.25 especially is plenty for 33's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurley842002 View Post
    Yeah not true, the 8.25 especially is plenty for 33's.
    Especially since I have wheeled with the Jeep in that ad....35's are no problem for it and it'll run whatever trail you think are good enough to take it on. If I had the cashola I'd buy that XJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockhound View Post
    if you can drive the dana 35 is a fine axle. 33" or smaller tires.

    seeing as the 35 is the stock axle for oh i dont know, about 2.5 million jeeps, staying away from it will be almost impossible

    i know plenty of guys who have wheeled the crap out of a dana 35 with no issues, you can brake any axle, i have seen 60s snap going over a 12 inch shelf


    best bang for the buck is a cherokee, 1996 and newer are safer, that is when they went to a structural roof, anything older you will want a roll cage if you do ay serious wheeling at all. i know this first hand.
    +1 the Cherokee. I think it's one of the best values in a 4x4. If you bump to a 97 or newer model with the 8.25" rear axle you get 29 splines instead of 27 and strength approaching a Dana 44. (Late 96s had 29 spline as well). A cherokee on 31s with a drop in locker like a Spartan will take you lots of places and get your feet wet wheeling until you find out what you really want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtrulz View Post
    He spent all that money and still has crappy axles. Another rig built to look cool. Lots of money in lockers and gears in axles that you shouldnt run anything over a 31 on.
    To the OP:

    The Jeep in the linked ad is mine. If you or anyone else has any questions please feel free to PM.

    You can save a ton of money buying a built rig. I added up my "mods" Friday and they came to just under 13K, and blue book is somewhere in the 5-6K. That said, I priced my Jeep very high for what it is. My jeep is NOT a "good deal", but it's a solid rig cheaper than you could build the exact similar rig yourself.

    Building a 4x4 is not unlike building an AR - there are 100s of different directions you can go. Look at what you want and intend to do with the rig and build from there. A 20" barrel and 10x scope isn't the tool for room clearing, likewise an SBR with red dot isn't a 600 yard champ. Middle St Vrain and Cooney Flats isn't much fun on 40s, but it's a hoot on 31s. I built my rig for the trails I like to do and it's done well. My interests have shifted to two wheels offroad, so I threw an ad up to sell the Jeep.

    The internet is full of great information and opinions and, just like with an AR - take it all in with a grain of salt. Most people consider the 8.25" rear axle with 29 spline shafts very similar in strength to a Dana 44. The low pinion Dana 30 found in the 2000 Cherokee, while not as strong as the high pinion 30s found in the SWB Jeeps and -99 Cherokees, is more than adequate for 33s if you wheel with some common sense. If you add alloy shafts to these axles as I did, the general consensus is that they are good for 35s with a light skinny pedal. That said, I still carry spare shafts for front and rear.

    Good luck with your purchase - welcome to the addiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by condoor View Post
    To the OP:

    The Jeep in the linked ad is mine. If you or anyone else has any questions please feel free to PM.

    You can save a ton of money buying a built rig. I added up my "mods" Friday and they came to just under 13K, and blue book is somewhere in the 5-6K. That said, I priced my Jeep very high for what it is. My jeep is NOT a "good deal", but it's a solid rig cheaper than you could build the exact similar rig yourself.

    Building a 4x4 is not unlike building an AR - there are 100s of different directions you can go. Look at what you want and intend to do with the rig and build from there. A 20" barrel and 10x scope isn't the tool for room clearing, likewise an SBR with red dot isn't a 600 yard champ. Middle St Vrain and Cooney Flats isn't much fun on 40s, but it's a hoot on 31s. I built my rig for the trails I like to do and it's done well. My interests have shifted to two wheels offroad, so I threw an ad up to sell the Jeep.

    The internet is full of great information and opinions and, just like with an AR - take it all in with a grain of salt. Most people consider the 8.25" rear axle with 29 spline shafts very similar in strength to a Dana 44. The low pinion Dana 30 found in the 2000 Cherokee, while not as strong as the high pinion 30s found in the SWB Jeeps and -99 Cherokees, is more than adequate for 33s if you wheel with some common sense. If you add alloy shafts to these axles as I did, the general consensus is that they are good for 35s with a light skinny pedal. That said, I still carry spare shafts for front and rear.

    Good luck with your purchase - welcome to the addiction.

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    You forgot to put a price on the thread in expo forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by condoor View Post
    To the OP:

    The Jeep in the linked ad is mine. If you or anyone else has any questions please feel free to PM.

    You can save a ton of money buying a built rig. I added up my "mods" Friday and they came to just under 13K, and blue book is somewhere in the 5-6K. That said, I priced my Jeep very high for what it is. My jeep is NOT a "good deal", but it's a solid rig cheaper than you could build the exact similar rig yourself.

    Building a 4x4 is not unlike building an AR - there are 100s of different directions you can go. Look at what you want and intend to do with the rig and build from there. A 20" barrel and 10x scope isn't the tool for room clearing, likewise an SBR with red dot isn't a 600 yard champ. Middle St Vrain and Cooney Flats isn't much fun on 40s, but it's a hoot on 31s. I built my rig for the trails I like to do and it's done well. My interests have shifted to two wheels offroad, so I threw an ad up to sell the Jeep.

    The internet is full of great information and opinions and, just like with an AR - take it all in with a grain of salt. Most people consider the 8.25" rear axle with 29 spline shafts very similar in strength to a Dana 44. The low pinion Dana 30 found in the 2000 Cherokee, while not as strong as the high pinion 30s found in the SWB Jeeps and -99 Cherokees, is more than adequate for 33s if you wheel with some common sense. If you add alloy shafts to these axles as I did, the general consensus is that they are good for 35s with a light skinny pedal. That said, I still carry spare shafts for front and rear.

    Good luck with your purchase - welcome to the addiction.

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    Thanks for the offer! I think I would like to stick with a wrangler or samurai. (once i learn to drive a stick)
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    How much of an advantage would it be to have a diesel in a wrangler?

    http://www.bruiserconversions.com/je...el-conversion/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Firehaus View Post
    How much of an advantage would it be to have a diesel in a wrangler?

    http://www.bruiserconversions.com/je...el-conversion/


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    Saw a thread on dieseltruckresource.com where the guy did a 4BT in a Wrangler and was getting about 30 on the freeway.
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