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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    ^Interesting (as in complete nonsense)

    The Founding Fathers on Jesus, Christianity and the Bible

    Thomas Jefferson

    SIGNER OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE; DIPLOMAT; GOVERNOR OF VIRGINIA; SECRETARY OF STATE; THIRD PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES


    Thomas Jefferson, The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, Albert Bergh, editor (Washington, D. C.: Thomas Jefferson Memorial Assoc., 1904), Vol. XV, p. 383, to Dr. Benjamin Waterhouse on June 26, 1822.


    Thomas Jefferson, The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, Alberty Ellery Bergh, editor (Washington D.C.: The Thomas Jefferson Memorial Association, 1904), Vol. XII, p. 315, to James Fishback, September 27, 1809.


    Thomas Jefferson, Memoir, Correspondence, and Miscellanies from the Papers of Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Randolph, editor (Boston: Grey & Bowen, 1830), Vol. III, p. 506, to Benjamin Rush, April 21, 1803.


    Thomas Jefferson, The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, Albert Ellery Bergh, editor (Washington, D.C.: The Thomas Jefferson Memorial Association, 1904), Vol. XIV, p. 385, to Charles Thomson on January 9, 1816.
    The first amendment is/was interpreted out of context by attorneys as now the attack on the second amendment will eventually be interpreted out of context. The first amendment was based totally on preventing a quasi-governmental authority like Rome or the Church of England from restricting the rights of people (what the protestant movement worked so hard to change) and one of the main themes of colonization in the first place. The first amendment was never intended to strip God from government and society as it is being used to do now. It was intended to protect the people's right to worship from government interference. It is definitely not meant to protect you from getting your feelings hurt by this nation's history, monuments, prayers, and gatherings of common believers. Those with a thing against religion are trying to strip God out of society even though it has no influence on what they can or can't do. I mean who does it hurt if a school rents space to a church so believers of the same faith have a place to meet. It hurts absolutely nobody; and from my point of view, this type of hostile attack on religion is exactly what the amendment is suppose to address.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockhound View Post
    I did not see this in any of our local news casts???


    The principal at Rocky Mountain High School in Fort Collins, Colorado, is facing a hailstorm of criticism from some very angry parents and residents.

    The school recites the Pledge of Allegiance weekly, on Mondays. Last Monday, a member of their “Cultural Arms Club” led the student body in an Arabic version of the pledge, replacing the words “under God” with “under Allah.”
    Principal Tom Lopez denies any attempt to push an Islamic agenda, saying, “These students love this country. They were not being un-American in trying to do this. They believed they were accentuating the meaning of the words as spoken regularly in English.”
    Principal Lopez doesn’t make any sense. Speaking unintelligible words in Arabic in some way accentuates their meaning? That is an extremely weak argument in defense of an ill-advised decision.

    http://gopthedailydose.com/2014/04/2...n-under-allah/
    I am disgusted by this for two reasons and neither has to do with my faith:

    Celebrating a culture that has so much innocent blood on their hands is disgusting. I absolutely hate political correctness, and this is a good example of the crap coming out of our public schools. The teaching of kids that these people only do what they do because we are mean to them is complete bullshit.

    Secondly, I am disgusted by the lack of reverence for this country and culture.
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    Here's some Islam in the classrooms in California--determine whether the Holocaust really happened or was just a “propaganda tool that was used for political and monetary gain.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/06/ca...ocaust-denial/

    Mohammad Z. Islam, the interim superintendent of the Rialto Unified School District, just doesn't seem to understand what all the fuss is about, --which is essentially what was said by Syeda Jafri, spokesman for the district.
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    Quote Originally Posted by funkymonkey1111 View Post
    Here's some Islam in the classrooms in California--determine whether the Holocaust really happened or was just a “propaganda tool that was used for political and monetary gain.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/06/ca...ocaust-denial/

    Mohammad Z. Islam, the interim superintendent of the Rialto Unified School District, just doesn't seem to understand what all the fuss is about, says spokesman Syeda Jafri.
    Now that really pisses me off! Tell this to the guys who first saw what happened when they rolled into Ohrdruf. My father was in the Pacific, but he was friends with people who came back from Europe. Damn...that is just wrong!
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    Allah is literally just the translation of God

    The pledge doesn't belong in schools, any way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridge View Post
    Allah is literally just the translation of God

    The pledge doesn't belong in schools, any way.
    I don't have a problem with it if the Muslims in question are the peaceful ones I've normally met in the past. I DO have a problem is the translation is intended with irony and their Allah is the one followed by the likes of the Ayatollah Khomeini or Osama bin Laden or the Tsarnaev brothers.

    Your last statement though is typical liberal BS. Schools are the place the pledge belongs most. Violence in American society began rising as we took civics out of school and replaced it with "diversity" and "multiculturalism" and other facets of the felgercarb liberals like to replace actual education with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    Your last statement though is typical liberal BS. Schools are the place the pledge belongs most. Violence in American society began rising as we took civics out of school and replaced it with "diversity" and "multiculturalism" and other facets of the felgercarb liberals like to replace actual education with.
    Blindly swearing membership in anything is bad. And considering how many members on this forum spend the day bitching about the country and the people who run it, I'm surprised my statement would be met with any disagreement. There is nothing wrong with diversity in it's core. It's when diversity is lifted up and other ethnicities and groups are raised above others that it becomes a problem.

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    My imaginary dude in the sky can beat up your imaginary dude in the sky

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    Quote Originally Posted by hatidua View Post
    My imaginary dude in the sky can beat up your imaginary dude in the sky
    Yup
    The most important thing to be learned from those who demand "Equality For All" is that all are not equal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hatidua View Post
    My imaginary dude in the sky can beat up your imaginary dude in the sky
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    Yup

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