Caliber debates about pistols are worthless

[TheGrey]

On his first day back from vacation, Sgt. Gramin did all of that?

Major respect! I can't imagine what he was going through- especially moments after he was going to purchase his eight-year-old's birthday gift, he's in the firefight of his life.
Some points that stood out from the article:

"Gramins fired back through his windshield, sending a total of 13 rounds tearing through just three holes."

13 shots through 3 holes, at a moving target, all while trying to maintain cover and make sure no passers-by were struck by errant bullets.

"A master firearms instructor and a sniper on his department’s Tactical Intervention Unit, “I was confident at least some of them were hitting him, but he wasn’t even close to slowing down,” Gramins said."

That would be terrifying.

[SuperiorDG]

For clarification:

On his first day back from vacation, Sgt. Gramin did all of that?

Major respect! I can't imagine what he was going through- especially moments after he was going to purchase his eight-year-old's birthday gift, he's in the firefight of his life.
Some points that stood out from the article:

"Gramins fired back through his windshield, sending a total of 13 rounds tearing through just three holes."

13 shots through 3 holes, at a moving target, all while trying to maintain cover and make sure no passers-by were struck by errant bullets.

"A master firearms instructor and a sniper on his department’s Tactical Intervention Unit, “I was confident at least some of them were hitting him, but he wasn’t even close to slowing down,” Gramins said."

That would be terrifying.

The three hole were in the windshield and it was not moving.

[TheGrey]

For clarification:



The three hole were in the windshield and it was not moving.

Yes, thirteen shots through three holes in the windshield.

I'm impressed with that- I'm still new enough to shooting that I'm absurdly pleased with myself when I can keep my grouping to one quadrant on my target.

I take it by your response that putting 3 shots through 3 holes in a windshield is no big thing? That everyone can do it?

[SuperiorDG]

Yes, thirteen shots through three holes in the windshield.

I'm impressed with that- I'm still new enough to shooting that I'm absurdly pleased with myself when I can keep my grouping to one quadrant on my target.

I take it by your response that putting 3 shots through 3 holes in a windshield is no big thing? That everyone can do it?

I think the story is kind of sensationalizing this fact. It's really no big deal if you have ever tried it. The reason there were three holes is probably because the target was moving. If it was stationary there would have probably only been one hole. When shooting from inside a car the muzzle is right up against the windshield and usually after the first shot the muzzle it poking through the windshield. Just try sitting in your car and fully extend the gun as you normally would and you will see what I mean. FYI: if you have a Glock with stock sights you may end up without a front sight, thus screwing you for the rest of the gunfight.