They get ice storms too. Not too hot during one of those.
They get ice storms too. Not too hot during one of those.
I moved here from Fort Worth, which is basically a twin city of Dallas, in 2008. I did not like living there, having grown up in rural MN, the change was just too much, but I think I could handle it now. There's a few things you need to know though.
Gun Laws are essentially the same as pre- 2013 CO, but that's not much of anything on the big picture.
There's no state income tax, but property taxes can be insane in some counties in the metroplex,(They seem to think each high-school needs a football stadium that rivals most colleges among other things) research it extensively before buying a home and if your realtor isn't taking that into account, fire them and find one that does. As an example, the house I owned there was valued at $130K, and my yearly property taxes were over $4300. Also there's sales tax on pretty much everything so when looking at taxes as a consideration in the overall financial plan, you need to look a little deeper than first sight in TX, some counties suck up a LOT of tax dollars. Vehicle licenses are about the same as CO was in about 2008 ish, just before the screwing we got from the .gov on that aspect. Vehicle insurance is roughly the same give or take a bit.
HOA's are pretty much a given in any of the burbs, but if you get out of town a ways you can avoid them, they are expensive and strict in most places. ( I hate HOA's )
Real estate is in general MUCH cheaper than the Denver area, but if you want a little land under your house, you're going to pay big bucks for it.
There's very little public land in TX, and therefore, if you're into hunting, you're going to have to pay for a lease to make it happen. It's a HUGE business there and a good lease is both hard to find and very expensive.
Climate, well, frankly it's hot as hell, and has a good bit of humidity thrown in, Winter is bitter cold when it drops below about 40 degrees due to the same humidity, it's odd, and surprisingly nasty. 30 degrees there feels like 0 here. Monthly AC bills are high and Water bills to keep your lawn green will bowl the average person from around here right over, and the HOA will fine the shit out of you if you don't keep it green. You also need to water the lawn to keep the clay/rock mixture below the foundation of your house moist, or it will heave and crack your foundation. DON'T EVEN CONSIDER buying a house with a basement there, or you'll be constantly fighting cracks and the mold/mildew issues that come after the cracks.
Traffic SUCKS and pretty much every major highway at any given daylight hour is damn near as bad as going through the tech center on I-25 at peak rush hour(s).
Don't get me wrong, there's good things there too, the job market is good if you need to find a decent paying job, and it's an extremely pro-business state/city. There's a massive gun show somewhere about every weekend, and there's some first class ranges in the area. Gas taxes are fairly low, similar to WY is, and you don't have to leave the house when it snows (and probably don't want to because none of them can drive for shit) because they shut everything down hahaha. If you've got specific questions or concerns, fire away.
Grew up in San Antonio, spent 38years in Tx., the only other city I would consider living in besides San Antonio would be Dallas. That being said been back home for the last 3 weeks, and the heat is killing me! Humid as hell. Oil business is booming down here. No problems with finding work. Land is cheap depending on where you look, for hunting a lease would be the best way to go. You will find a lot of people have farms to hunt so be friendly to your co-workers.
I spent a few years living inDallas, my sister was living in Frisco at the time.
Pros: the food, there is a reason Texans are so fat. The food is cheap and good. People down there love their beer. If your wife likes to shop there are a ton of good shopping venues. There are great gun shows. Everytime my father in law came to visit he left with a new gun.
there are two good airports and with southwest at love field you can get to every major us city for about $100. If you like live music ther is a big music scene. While the people have egos the size of...well...Texas, they are friendly.
There is a fun place to go every weekend: Austin, the hill country, schlitterbahn, sixflags, and more.
Con: the heat. You only get one day of spring, and everyone is outside trying to enjoy it so it's crowded and sucks. It will be humid, then it will get even more humid for a week, then it will raind for a week, then it will go back to Oh My God Why is it so Hot?
Traffic, learn to like sitting in your car and dodging other cars, there were also an abundance of people trying to sprint across the highway. They mostly made it, mostly.
Flat. So flat I took all the gears off my bikes. So flat the highway overpass looks like a mountain. And there are trees so you can never see more than a couple hundred yards. Unless you are in traffic, then you can see the miles of cars ahead of you.
if you like being outdoors, this is not the place for you. I raced road bikes while I lived there, I learned your body will start to shut down if you excersise when it's 112 degrees out. They have this thing called heat index. It's like the opposite of wind chill.
I couldn't wait to get out of there, but I could be convinced to go back for the right career.
I lived in north Carolina for 5+ years so I'm somewhat used to heat and humidity, just not that extreme and I'm not sure I can tolerate it anymore. I've made about 10 trips to Texas (3 to Dallas) in the past couple of years and I don't remember the traffic being so horrible, maybe I want paying attention though. The housing looks ridiculously cheap compared to highlands ranch. I hadn't thought about water bills for the lawn but in highlands ranch(not sure if others have this) we have water budgets and I get killed on my water bill in the summer to the tune of about $250 anyways.
I lived in N. Texas for a year. About a hour from Dallas. Humidity is the worse of it. Lot's of good people who like to shoot and have a good time. The Texas attitude is real and can get old but I never had a problem with it. Just gave as much as I got and everything was fine. Traffic can be incredibly terrible. You have to learn when to take certain routes. All in all I liked living there.
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Grew up in Ft. Worth. Never liked Dallas. Lots of the cons have been posted. There is no FS/BLM/Open space that I can think of. Shooting at ranges only unless you have friends with land. All the lakes I grew up going to are now gated communities.
Not someplace I want to go back to.
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Strong men create good times
Good times create weak men
Weak men create hard times
my opinion of tejas, Big D and the state.
Lots of things to do, if and when you get dialed in with the locals (more than 15 yr transplants) Big D Urbania, someone mentioned HOA's, the homeless have HOA's, that's how serious they are about them.
Traffic, honk, honk, honk. I've seen miles and miles of texas. That song hit's it on the head. What you save on one item, they make up for the next one over.
Easiest way to shut a texan up.... Tell them you're from Alaska
Our not moving there was determined by the push to give illegal's voting rights. As the gang of 4 did here, in CO, with dem take overs. The big money push is turning tx blue. The money is in place, the votes, close (Austin, Huston, Dig D, FW) can tip the scales.
The D's get their entitlement hands on TX, might as well move to CA, MA or NY, cause it's going to be the same shit.
Personally, if you can afford to rent vs sell your house, do it. Get someone from the board to be property manager, or very trusting acquaintance. This way if things take a shit in TX, you have an out.
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texas has enforceable "no gun" signs, and no open carry. I think colorado is ahead on the gun laws.
My parents live in North Dallas and my wife and I were very close to moving there. It's a great state and I wouldn't mind living there. We also lived in San Antonio when I was younger. You want to talk about hot? Good Lord San Antonio is insanely hot compared to Dallas. The traffic there makes Denver traffic look like a cake walk. My brother commutes 30 miles to downtown Dallas area and he routinely takes an hour and a half to two hours to get there. Insane!