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    She is paying for her share of rent and utilities. He will cover for her if she isn't able to for some reason. He's been a good friend for 10 years. She will be added to the lease for sure.

    She was in jail for 3 months. This is her 3rd DUI. Other than her occasional drinking relapse (2 times a year on average) she's great. Since the ankle bracelet detects alcohol I'm confident she won't relapse until at least it comes off. By then I'll be out of there.

    Do you guys know a place that legally stores firearms, mags and ammo? I would be interested in such a place for a reasonable price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ipleadda2nd View Post
    She is paying for her share of rent and utilities. He will cover for her if she isn't able to for some reason. He's been a good friend for 10 years. She will be added to the lease for sure.

    She was in jail for 3 months. This is her 3rd DUI. Other than her occasional drinking relapse (2 times a year on average) she's great. Since the ankle bracelet detects alcohol I'm confident she won't relapse until at least it comes off. By then I'll be out of there.

    Do you guys know a place that legally stores firearms, mags and ammo? I would be interested in such a place for a reasonable price.
    How does an ankle bracelet detect alcohol?? Any place you leave firearms, a BG check will be needed to retrieve them, after 72hrs..

    Great friend / room mate and GF with alcohol addiction aside. IF you have a safe and IF these folks are so great. Why do you feel the need to move them off site? Sounds like you're about to see the dark side of friendship.
    IMO. for someone who OCCASIONALLY RELAPSES and racks up DUI's , you should really reconsider taking this project on. After an ex friend who had a small herion addiction, we stopped taking in strays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    How does an ankle bracelet detect alcohol??
    It's called a SCRAM in Colorado and needs constant contact with skin which, when a person is drinking alcohol, exudes enough alcohol through the skin to be detected.

    And don't try to put a blocker between the sensor and the skin, this is read as a deceptive result and is as bad as a positive result.

    http://www.scramsystems.com/index/sc...hol-monitoring

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkUSMC88 View Post
    The issue is authority to search a home without a warrant. A probation officer can search the home of a probationer without a warrant. This is one of the tenets of being on probation: a lesser expectation of privacy in one's home, car, and person. As such, they can be generally be searched for no reason.

    On the issue of authority of others to consent to searches: On one hand, Georgia v. Randolph, 547 U.S. 103 (2006) says that when two people give conflicting permission to search (one says "go ahead" and the other says "where's your warrant?") the officers may only search the common areas, but not the private areas. However, Fernandez v. California, 134 S. Ct. 1126 (2014) says that if the person objecting to the search is no longer present to object to the search, the officers can conduct a full search based on the present consenting person. In that case, the wife gave permission to search, the husband objected to the search, the officers arrested the husband and took him away, then search with full consent. This is good law now, like it or not.

    Apparent authority is another issue: if you go out to the store, and your neighbor is on your porch, say potting a plant, and the police show up and ask to search. Your neighbor gives consent, this is a good search, too, as the officers had a good reason to believe their search was under consent of the person living at the house.

    If living with someone on probation, always best to secure your stuff. The danger is being charged with providing prohibited items to people who should not have them. Such aid, assistance, or encouragement can furnish evidence of your being an accomplice to their acts of possession.

    Also, school everyone on the phrase "where's your warrant?" and "I want my lawyer."
    Quote Originally Posted by MarkUSMC88 View Post
    It's called a SCRAM in Colorado and needs constant contact with skin which, when a person is drinking alcohol, exudes enough alcohol through the skin to be detected.

    And don't try to put a blocker between the sensor and the skin, this is read as a deceptive result and is as bad as a positive result.

    http://www.scramsystems.com/index/sc...hol-monitoring
    Thank you for clarifying & explaining a few items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    How does an ankle bracelet detect alcohol?? Any place you leave firearms, a BG check will be needed to retrieve them, after 72hrs..

    Great friend / room mate and GF with alcohol addiction aside. IF you have a safe and IF these folks are so great. Why do you feel the need to move them off site? Sounds like you're about to see the dark side of friendship.
    IMO. for someone who OCCASIONALLY RELAPSES and racks up DUI's , you should really reconsider taking this project on. After an ex friend who had a small herion addiction, we stopped taking in strays.
    I hear you! I would write her off as broken and a lost cause. But my roommate won't. This is how the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. I'm in the middle of a trashy situation. It's my responsibility to get myself out of it which will take a few months.
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