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Must not fly much.Originally Posted by PugnacAutMortem
Or have family or friends in the military.
Or friends or family in Israel.
Or non-muslim friends or family living or working in the Middle East.
One of the stupidest, immature, selfish quotes I've ever heard. "It does not directly affect me in a negative way. Therefore, what do I care."
Carry on.
Last edited by davsel; 10-28-2014 at 11:06.
Excepting nearly every word uttered by Obama, Billary, or Elizabeth "Faux-cahontas" Warren, I agree. +1
Nope, my brother is in the military but its strange because he isn't calling me saying "man, I wish this Islam thing would stop making my life a living hell", nope & nope not living in the middle east...however our roommate is Muslim. **GASP**...yes we actually let one of "those people" live in our house and around our children even. Strange, she doesn't want to blow up our family...nor does she want any other Muslim to blow up our family. She's actually quite fond of our family, because she has become a part of it. Yes...a Christian household not only allows, but encourages a Muslim to live with us and to do life together.
You know what she has to deal with on a daily basis? People like some of you on here, treating her poorly because of her religion. That makes me more angry than I am able to express in words, and every last one of you who does exactly that should be absolutely ashamed of yourselves. Funny thing is, there's plenty of shitty people out there. Hell, there's probably as many shitty Christians as there are Muslims. There's even plenty of shitty gun owners. And boy that torques some folks on here right off when people generalize you because you are associated with a belief system/activity/group etc. You want to talk about stupid, selfish and immature? Pot, meet kettle.
I am out...I've thoroughly derailed this thread even further than it already was.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that - George Carlin
To your first part- Christianity does not state that- you're taking a biblical quote out of context. "He who denies me in front of men will be denied before the Angels of God," Luke 12:9. That was speaking to those who do not believe in Christ, and they will not receive eternal death, but be denied entrance to Heaven, in the Christian sense.
Point 2- the bible does not, anywhere, encourage violence, in the New Testament. The OT does state that God was so angry with the sins of man that he wiped the wicked out (Soddom and Gommorah, The Great Flood, etc.), but no where does the bible state to find the non-Christian and smite their heads from their body. Again, you take things out of context.
Third- Islam does directly affect me. I have to take off my shoes and consent to invasive searches just to board an airplane. Hassidic Jews did not cause this, Roman Catholics did not cause this, Islamic Jihadists caused this. I lost the chance (nevermind that I chose against, but the option was taken from me) to pursue a career in the US Army because of injury sustained in Afghanistan, fighting Islamic Jihadists. They caused this. They directly affected my life and I have scars to prove it. I no longer have 33 vertebrae in my spine, I'm now at 32. This was caused by my having to take the fight to the Islamic Jihadists in a far off land who attacked us. It was not Jews, it was not Christians, and it was not Hindi. I was perfectly happy, up until 9/11/01 to leave people the fuck alone, but they could not leave my country alone, thus I stand with the many on here who see the truth.
In the words of Bridgette Gabriel- Your roommate is IRRELEVANT.
"There is no news in the truth, and no truth in the news."
"The revolution will not be televised... Instead it will be filmed from multiple angles via cell phone cameras, promptly uploaded to YouTube, Tweeted about, and then shared on Facebook, pending a Wi-Fi connection."
Can't help myself...
I would be willing to bet that the verses you took from the Koran in post #37 are out of context as well. And an aside to your point about being denied entry into Heaven...read Revelations 20:15.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that - George Carlin
Yes, non-believers are going to Hell after they die on earth. That is entirely God's call.
Which is worse? I'll take MURDER for $1000, Alex. Choosing to murder someone for not believing the same as you is an Islamic teaching, not Christian. Christians will attempt to spread the Gospel, but if you choose not to believe in it, that is your free will, and ultimately between you and God. The Christian will go on about his business and you may go on about yours.
1- Book of Al-Maeda, verse 33 (5:33) -“The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;”
2- Book of Al-Anfal, verse 12 ( 8:12) - “I (Allah) will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off.”
3- Book of Muhammad, verse 4 (47:4) - “Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), strike off their heads; at length; then when you have made wide Slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives”: thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens.”
4- Book of Al-Tawba, verse 123 (9:123) - “Oh ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers and let them find harshness in you.”
5- Book of Al-Baqara, verse 191 (2:191) - “Kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from wherever they drove you out.”
6- Book of Al-Baqara, verse 193 (2:193) - “Fight them on until there is no more tumult and religion becomes that of Allah”
7- Book of Al-Tawba verse 29 (9:29) - "Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the last day... and fight People of the Book, (Christian and Jews) who do not accept the religion of truth (Islam) until they pay tribute (Jizyah tax) by hand, being inferior.”
8- Book of Al-Anfal, verse 17 (8:17) - It is not ye who Slew them, but Allah; And thou (Muhammad) threwest not when thou didst throw, but Allah threw, that He might test the believers by a fair test from Him. Lo! Allah is Hearer, Knower. Allah is indeed the "Beneficent and the Merciful" and above all, Allah is knower of all things.
And one of my all time favorites:
Last edited by davsel; 10-28-2014 at 13:38.
Hammer meet nail!
"There is no news in the truth, and no truth in the news."
"The revolution will not be televised... Instead it will be filmed from multiple angles via cell phone cameras, promptly uploaded to YouTube, Tweeted about, and then shared on Facebook, pending a Wi-Fi connection."
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