My anti/pro GMO non-rant

[bryjcom]

After reading the posts in this thread, I'm left with a couple of conclusions.

~People think they have been eating GMO for 50 years. Wrong... GMO crops were introduced to the public around 1995ish.

~People think hybridization and GMO are the same thing.. Wrong.. Hybridization is crossing naturally occurring traits with other naturally occurring traits. GMO species are being created with actual pesticides in them and completely unnatural proteins to these species.



One of the more common species of GMO corn today is the "BT maize". It contains Bacillus thuringiensis delta-endotoxin which shuts down the digestive system of insects. They say it doesn't affect humans but I think they may be wrong, which is why Germany, Russia, Ireland, Australian, Switzerland, Japan, New Zealand, Austria, Hungary, Greeze, Bulgaria have banned it.

Monsanto claims the the BT toxin is destroyed in the human body but a study out of Quebec shows that it is found in the blood streams of pregnant women.

Traces of Bt toxin were found in the blood of 93 per cent of the pregnant mothers – 28 out of 30. It was also found in 80 per cent of the umbilical cords – 24 out of 30

Traces of Bt toxin were found in the blood of 93 per cent of the pregnant mothers – 28 out of 30. It was also found in 80 per cent of the umbilical cords – 24 out of 30

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...#ixzz3FR7g30KS


There have been lots of studies that show an increase of food allergies to GMO foods as well. They are finding that these toxins are triggering an auto immune response which is causing these food allergies. My daughter has a gluten allergy and possibly more, which we believe may be linked, at least in part, to behavior and learning disorders.

http://www.examiner.com/article/gene...rise-allergies


Not to mention the increase of tumors in rats, sterile populations of hamsters, decreased testes, and fertility problems in animals, yada yada yada. Just google the studies and pictures and see for yourself.
Then you have the problem with glyphosate (Roundup) that is being used on these resistant plants that is getting into our food and ultimately our bodies which is a whole different problem.



I tend to think of the human body as a computer and the food we eat as the "input code" for our computer. When we start changing the code unnaturally we start changing the operating system of our computer
There is evidence that these mutated genes are entering our bloodstreams and are NOT BEING BROKEN DOWN BY OUR BODIES.

But the real scare to me is that we are screwing with the genetic code of our planet that has taken millions of years to write. We are modifying this code with terminators in the genes that prevent germination of the seeds of these plants. Is it at least plausible that our natural heirloom plants could be contaminated genetically with these mutations and become sterile? Its not really a far fetched idea...

Scientists need to ponder the question of, "just because we can, does it mean we should?"

[davsel]

Greed.
U.S. farms produce far more than is consumed already - have been for many years.
Stop screwing with nature.

[sellersm]

Reviving this thread as one formerly pro-GMO scientist has changed his stance is now campaigning against GMO foods:

Former Pro-GMO Biotech Scientist Admits GMOs are NOT Safe.

Submitted by Austin Broer on Mon, 11/03/2014 - 16:26
Dr. Thierry Vrain A former GMO biotechnologist who has come out with a lot of information that should open people’s eyes about the real dangers of genetically modified foods and crops.
Vrain will be the first to admit that Monsanto has conducted a lot of studies showing that GMOs are safe, but he changed his own tune about ten years ago when he started reading scientific journals from other countries.
Vrain explains:
“I started paying attention to the flow of published studies coming from Europe, some from prestigious labs and published in prestigious scientific journals, that questioned the impact and safety of engineered food.”
Vrain was so much a supporter of GMOs (as well as a former biotech scientist for Agriculture Canada) that he used to conduct tours and tell large groups of people all about the greatness of genetically altered crops – but not anymore. Here is what he thinks about his former industry now:
“I refute the claims of the biotechnology companies that their engineered crops yield more, that they require less pesticide applications, that they have no impact on the environment and of course that they are safe to eat.
There are a number of scientific studies that have been done for Monsanto by universities in the U.S., Canada, and abroad. Most of these studies are concerned with the field performance of the engineered crops, and of course they find GMOs safe for the environment and therefore safe to eat.”
Vrain thinks the public is being swindled. He believes we should all demand that government agencies replicate tests showing that GMOs are safe rather than rely on studies paid for by the biotech companies. He continues:
“The Bt corn and soya plants that are now everywhere in our environment are registered as insecticides. But are these insecticidal plants regulated and have their proteins been tested for safety? Not by the federal departments in charge of food safety, not in Canada and not in the U.S.
There are no long-term feeding studies performed in these countries to demonstrate the claims that engineered corn and soya are safe. All we have are scientific studies out of Europe and Russia, showing that rats fed engineered food die prematurely.
These studies show that proteins produced by engineered plants are different than what they should be. Inserting a gene in a genome using this technology can and does result in damaged proteins. The scientific literature is full of studies showing that engineered corn and soya contain toxic or allergenic proteins.”
This science is actually only about 40 years old. It is all based on a theory of genetic manipulation hypothesized around 70 years ago – of the ONE GENE – meaning that each gene codes for one single protein. The Human Genome project proved this totally wrong.
Most scientists now understand that any gene can give more than one protein and that inserting a gene anywhere in a plant eventually creates rogue proteins. Some of these proteins are obviously allergenic or toxic, like Cry proteins found in GMO corn. Otherwise known as Bt toxins (Bacillus thuringiensis), Cry proteins are one of biotech’s answers for ‘safe’ food.
That’s odd; one study found them absolutely toxic for mammalian blood. Dr. Mezzomo says that Cry toxins are deathly for mice. Another study linked them to a higher rate of leukemia. Yet another study conducted at Sherbrooke University Hospital in Quebec found corn’s Bt-toxin in the blood of pregnant women and their babies, as well as in non-pregnant women. These same toxins are also associated with higher levels of inflammation in the body, allergies, MS, and cancer.
Furthermore, what ridiculous egocentricity for biotech scientists to think they can crack the code of life when there are still acres and acres of rainforest that contain medicinal herbs that they have never even studied or recognized. Every square mile lost in these forests represents a possible cancer soution or super-food source.
Why the heck do we need GMOs? We haven’t even utilized the plethora of foods and herbs Mother Nature has already provided us with, if only we would steward them sustainably. There seems to be a new wonder-extract being discovered every few days, despite our pillaging.
Additionally, Vrain once answered honestly to this question in an interview:
“Q: It is astounding that people don’t question the very idea of altering DNA. When Monsanto or others claim a genetically modified organism is “substantially equivalent” to the conventional plant, it’s illogical to me because when DNA is altered, the plant is altered. It’s not the same and it’s certainly not natural.
A: That depends on your view of the world. As a scientist, when you add a bacteria gene to a plant, or a plant gene to a fish, or a human gene to corn, or 10,000 acres of corn growing insulin – they consider it progress. So if a tomato plant has a bacterial gene, it still looks very much like a tomato plant. You couldn’t tell very much from the taste of the tomato so there is something easy about believing in “substantial equivalence” . . . but Roundup (Monsanto’s herbicide) is a chelator; it holds manganese, magnesium and a few other minerals. It holds the minerals and doesn’t let go so basically it starves the plant. It probably also starves many other creatures in the soil.”
New evidence shows that these same important minerals are chelated from humans that eat RoundUp GMOs.
Vrain has based his research on over 500 government reports and scientific articles published in peer-reviewed journals, some of them with the highest recognition in the world.
Now tell me – how exactly are GMOs safe?







If a soil biologist and scientist of genetic engineering of 30 years revisits his stance on GMOs – shouldn’t those who are still clinging to biotech efficacy relent? We as many GMO whistleblowers as we can get to come forward and shed light on the real truth about what is being done to our food.

[screagle2]

After reading the posts in this thread, I'm left with a couple of conclusions.

~People think they have been eating GMO for 50 years. Wrong... GMO crops were introduced to the public around 1995ish.

~People think hybridization and GMO are the same thing.. Wrong.. Hybridization is crossing naturally occurring traits with other naturally occurring traits. GMO species are being created with actual pesticides in them and completely unnatural proteins to these species.



One of the more common species of GMO corn today is the "BT maize". It contains Bacillus thuringiensis delta-endotoxin which shuts down the digestive system of insects. They say it doesn't affect humans but I think they may be wrong, which is why Germany, Russia, Ireland, Australian, Switzerland, Japan, New Zealand, Austria, Hungary, Greeze, Bulgaria have banned it.

Monsanto claims the the BT toxin is destroyed in the human body but a study out of Quebec shows that it is found in the blood streams of pregnant women.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...#ixzz3FR7g30KS


There have been lots of studies that show an increase of food allergies to GMO foods as well. They are finding that these toxins are triggering an auto immune response which is causing these food allergies. My daughter has a gluten allergy and possibly more, which we believe may be linked, at least in part, to behavior and learning disorders.

http://www.examiner.com/article/gene...rise-allergies


Not to mention the increase of tumors in rats, sterile populations of hamsters, decreased testes, and fertility problems in animals, yada yada yada. Just google the studies and pictures and see for yourself.
Then you have the problem with glyphosate (Roundup) that is being used on these resistant plants that is getting into our food and ultimately our bodies which is a whole different problem.



I tend to think of the human body as a computer and the food we eat as the "input code" for our computer. When we start changing the code unnaturally we start changing the operating system of our computer
There is evidence that these mutated genes are entering our bloodstreams and are NOT BEING BROKEN DOWN BY OUR BODIES.

But the real scare to me is that we are screwing with the genetic code of our planet that has taken millions of years to write. We are modifying this code with terminators in the genes that prevent germination of the seeds of these plants. Is it at least plausible that our natural heirloom plants could be contaminated genetically with these mutations and become sterile? Its not really a far fetched idea...

Scientists need to ponder the question of, "just because we can, does it mean we should?"

[tim-adams]

ok..
so here it the real poop..

if it does not say organic, assume it has a lot of GMO materials in it..
that is why the "new" law is just kind of blah...
don't place an undue burdon on the CO growers..


try this one..
90% of all corn is GMO..
how much of that corn is turned into high fructose corn syrup.
how many items have corn syrup in them??
most soda, most chips, LOL

assume everything not marked organic has some kind of GMO product used in it

[ColoFarmer]

ok..
so here it the real poop..

if it does not say organic, assume it has a lot of GMO materials in it..
that is why the "new" law is just kind of blah...
don't place an undue burdon on the CO growers..


try this one..
90% of all corn is GMO..
how much of that corn is turned into high fructose corn syrup.
how many items have corn syrup in them??
most soda, most chips, LOL

assume everything not marked organic has some kind of GMO product used in it

I'll add, unless it is marked organic OR Non-GMO Project Verified. This is the way to satisfy those who want to buy non-gmo food, expand this segment to be the same kind of system as the organic market is today.

[Eggysrun]

GMO's don't bother me as much as the pesticides they use on produce and chemicals in the feed for animals.

[asmo]

Replace vaccine with GMO...




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[tim-adams]

GMO's don't bother me as much as the pesticides they use on produce and chemicals in the feed for animals.

^^^^^ oh yeah

that is why my wife buys organic fruit and some veg..

[Zundfolge]

that is why my wife buys organic fruit and some veg..

Except that whenever I see the word "Organic" on food, my mind translates it into "Migrant Worker Feces".