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    I still like the hilarious anecdote: Two lab mice, feed one GMO, feed the other bread. Both get cancer and die. Conclusion: Who gives a shit? Or otherwise known as "Everything gives you cancer these days!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by tim-adams View Post
    ^^^^^ oh yeah

    that is why my wife buys organic fruit and some veg..
    Why are organic pesticides so much better than synthetic ones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D_F View Post
    Why are organic pesticides so much better than synthetic ones?
    Even better look at the label of origin on some organics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    Even better look at the label of origin on some organics.
    Indeed, one of our growers has a farm in Mexico, amazing all the products that are still legal and in use down there. And the last number I saw published for produce from outside the U.S. that was inspected by USDA was a whopping 4%.

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    Bogus GMO Labeling Bill gets passed:
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...not-being-told

    The first — and most contentious — is S. 764’s decree that food companies are not necessarily required to label genetically modified products in text form. While doing so is an option, according to the new law, food manufacturers may also choose to denote GM ingredients with a symbol or a QRC (quick response code) that, when scanned by a smartphone, will take the consumer to a website detailing further information about the product. The QRC method requires the consumer to have both a smartphone and access to the internet.
    Another problem with the bill is its lax standards and broad definitions. For example, the bill stipulates that if a majority of a product contains meat, it need not be labeled as containing GM ingredients, even if other ingredients are genetically modified (in contrast, a pepperoni pizza would need to be labeled if the flour in the pizza came from GM grain). While genetically modified animal meat is only beginning to make its way into the food supply, the new labeling bill establishes a concerning exemption for the future. Eggs will also not be subject to GM labels.

    Further, the new law “prohibit[s] a food derived from an animal to be considered a bioengineered food solely because the animal consumed feed produced from, containing, or consisting of a bioengineered substance.” In other words, if an animal ate GM feed throughout its life, food companies would not need to inform the consumer.
    Though the language of the bill is vague, it explicitly nullifies the GM labeling law passed in Vermont last year. That bill, which industry lobbyists aggressively attacked, would be overruled by S. 764, which dictates that “state-imposed labeling requirements would be banned,” as noted by Bloomberg. Vermont’s bill only took effect on July 1 of this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    Except that whenever I see the word "Organic" on food, my mind translates it into "Migrant Worker Feces".

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    I eat mostly non GMO foods now as do my kids because my stomach and everyone around my age 30ish seem to have lots of stomach issues as well as many are lactose.. I grew up in the country and ate lots of corn and such (my uncle is a big farmer in Michigan) I just think the GMO foods plus pesticides these days are causing more harm than the government cares to say.. And I also don't think ALL the immunization shots are needed (my kids are vaccinated but both my brother in sister don't do it and their kids have been fine) it's all about people making money anyway you want to look at it.

    But seriously look how many kids since GMO's started have stomach issues and allergies compared to the older people.. Then let's pull up this thread in another 10 years as well...

    Time me is the only way to tell anything when everyone is held in the dark.. Like stated no time to test there products because we all need to eat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hunterhawk View Post
    I eat mostly non GMO foods now as do my kids because my stomach and everyone around my age 30ish seem to have lots of stomach issues as well as many are lactose.. I grew up in the country and ate lots of corn and such (my uncle is a big farmer in Michigan) I just think the GMO foods plus pesticides these days are causing more harm than the government cares to say.. And I also don't think ALL the immunization shots are needed (my kids are vaccinated but both my brother in sister don't do it and their kids have been fine) it's all about people making money anyway you want to look at it.

    But seriously look how many kids since GMO's started have stomach issues and allergies compared to the older people.. Then let's pull up this thread in another 10 years as well...

    Time me is the only way to tell anything when everyone is held in the dark.. Like stated no time to test there products because we all need to eat!

    There does seem to be a trend here, but that doesn't necessarily indicate causation. I think if the stomach problems (and overall health) are what you're worried about, a more effective method of protecting your interests would be avoiding processed/packaged foods. Many artificial colors, flavors, and preservatives have been proven to lead to health problems, but rarely has an apple off the tree or broccoli from the garden caused any problems.
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    "Back when I was young" there was little to no peanut allergies, gluten issues, lactose intolerance or any other food allergies.

    I've spent a lot of time in Ohio farmland and can count on one hand the farmers that didn't think Monsanto and ADM were the evil overlords. My take is follow the money.

    I try to eat organic when possible but (as I see it) more importantly, I eat less processed. Pick up a canned food today and read the ingredients and pick up a can from 50 years ago...

    Yeah both sides are well funded and I doubt we will see anything resembling non biased studies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ah Pook View Post
    "Back when I was young" there was little to no peanut allergies, gluten issues, lactose intolerance or any other food allergies.
    Yup same here, and it really wasn't that long ago for me. Growing up in a small southeast Colorado town may also have something to do with it, but who knows.

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