Where is the outrage?

[Hound]

I never made a distinction between a trial Jury or Grand Jury. The issue I was bringing up was that it should not be left to just cops and the AD. It sounds like what I am pointing out is already in effect in NY. In MO, even the parents are wanting to let things play out with the Grand Jury. This does not cost the parents anything and yet the community is able to review. It should be automatic but at least they got there. Thanks for the information, it was informative.

There is a huge difference between a trial jury and a Grand Jury. Some states and localities require police shootings to be sent to the appropriate Grand Jury, while other states and localities do not. I believe that the local jurisdiction, as governed by the representatives in that jurisdiction should make those decisions.

There is no "one size fits all" solution to justice in America.

Another aspect of the recent shooting in New York City that you may, or may not be aware of is the animosity and tension between Mayor Bill de Blasio and the NYPD. Each borough of the city has it's own independent District Attorney and Borough President. The way a case involving the police in Staten Island, Richmond County is handled may be quite different than how a similar case would be received in Kings County, Brooklyn. Unless it has changed, all police shootings in New York City are investigated by a Grand Jury. After the appropriate Grand Jury has investigated and deliberated upon and returned either a true bill or refused to bring an indictment, the ADA handling criminal litigation will still need to decide on which charges are most likely to bring a successful conviction in the most efficient manner. If the Grand Jury refuses to indict, for whatever reason, then the ADA may decide to file an Information charging the officer with a lesser crime.

The process takes time. No amount of "every unarmed shooting should go to the jury" or "the officer should be charged with negligent homicide" will bring the process to it's conclusion any faster. Express your opinion, but in the end, that is all it is, your opinion. Some opinions have more experience behind them. That doesn't make them more right, but it does raise the probability.

Be safe.

[Big John]

I sure as hell don't want to have to go to trial for shooting an unarmed scum in my home. That goes for my car (extension of my home) as well.

[Bailey Guns]

I never made a distinction between a trial Jury or Grand Jury.

Yes, you did.

If ANYBODY shoots another person who is found to be unarmed (this is not in question, the rest will come out in trial), they should be prosecuted and put in front of a jury, period, regardless of Cop or not.

In that same post you then cut/pasted a definition for "prosecute". One is not prosecuted or judged in a trial by a grand jury. One is prosecuted by the DA's office and put in front of a judge and/or jury for trial.

Here's another instance where you're clearly speaking of a jury trial:

A trial would be quick then, what is there to fear?

Now you're trying to backpedal? Lame, dude. Lame.

[Bailey Guns]

I sure as hell don't want to have to go to trial for shooting an unarmed scum in my home. That goes for my car (extension of my home) as well.

In Colorado, your car is not an extension of your home. You don't have the same legal protections in your car as you do in your home and you don't have the same expectation of privacy in your car as you do your home.

[Hound]

Baily, learn to actually read without putting in your BS about things that were not said. Your attacks on another member of this forum are that only shows you of your own ignorance, against things that were not said. CSTONE shows that you can have a debate without resorting name calling.

[Bailey Guns]

[Hound]

Ya.... Nobody has every used the statement a "Grand Jury TRIAL", they use it in the news all the time, and here I thought that was common vernacular .

No, backpedal and Yip.... LAME.

Keep . Your ignorance seems to know no bounds.

Yes, you did.

In that same post you then cut/pasted a definition for "prosecute". One is not prosecuted or judged in a trial by a grand jury. One is prosecuted by the DA's office and put in front of a judge and/or jury for trial.

Here's another instance where you're clearly speaking of a jury trial:

Hound
"A trial would be quick then, what is there to fear?"

Now you're trying to backpedal? Lame, dude. Lame.

[Bailey Guns]

OK. I'm done laughing now. So, Hound, now you're trying to say, despite the fact I pointed out where you did say it, that you were talking about a grand jury and not a trial jury? And you're saying I need to learn to read? I don't even know what to say to that.

[Bailey Guns]

Ya.... Nobody has every used the statement a "Grand Jury TRIAL", they use it in the news all the time, and here I thought that was common vernacular .

No, backpedal and Yip.... LAME.

Keep . Your ignorance seems to know no bounds.

Your edit just made it worse. I have NEVER heard anyone use the term "grand jury trial". A grand jury doesn't try anyone. A grand jury is presented evidence and basically decides if there's enough probable cause for the DA to bring charges against someone.

You're hilarious if nothing else.

"Grand Jury Trial"?

[HoneyBadger]

You guys seriously both sound like 10 year olds.