LEO application

[cstone]

What ever happend to JM

I think he is waiting to respawn

[TheGrey]

Pull up your CBI. Any arrests you may have had in Colorado, whether resulting in conviction or not, will be listed. I'd think that they would be looking close to make sure you hadn't missed anything.

[HoneyBadger]

I think he is waiting to respawn

This made me actually laugh out loud. Mrs. HB gave me a funny look.

[cstone]

This made me actually laugh out loud. Mrs. HB gave me a funny look.

That funny look...that could be either very very bad, OR you could be getting lucky tonight

[OneGuy67]

Pull up your CBI. Any arrests you may have had in Colorado, whether resulting in conviction or not, will be listed. I'd think that they would be looking close to make sure you hadn't missed anything.

Not accurate. Only arrests in which fingerprints were sent to CBI will be listed. You can be arrested (such as a DUI), processed and released without fingerprints and it doesn't show on your criminal record maintained by CBI. In my example, it will show on your driving record though.

[TheVath]

Any DV convictions, any drug use within last 5 years, and probably any protection order violations, or any violations which prohibit you from owning a gun or driving and its a safe bet you won't be considered. Good luck in the process


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[Doc45]

My brother has a good friend (I know him fairly well too) that had a deferred judgement along with sealing of the record. He was informed by both the judge and his attorney that if ever asked "have you been arrested and or convicted of a crime?" he could legally answer "no". A few years go by, he has purchased firearms through ffls and answered "no" wtih no problems-got the nics clearances. Last year he applies for a l.e. job, he answered "no", was ruled out in the initial go-round. He said a friend of his with said dept. told him that even though the record on his case was sealed it showed on their background search. Interesting, no?

[james_bond_007]

Perhaps you could use their words to your benefit.

Misdemeanors and felonies differ, in definition, from state to state. What is a crime in one state may not be in another.
Laws change from year to year. What is a crime one year may not be the next, or vice versa.

Until you are tried and convicted, your activities are only your "alleged crimes" , thus unless convicted you have no other misdemeanors and felonies than those on record.

By the way, if you were convicted of a felony, they should not have let you into the academy if they knew you would have access to firearms.

MY BIG QUESTION": What is the statute of limitations on being able to convict you on any of the things to which you admit ?

I would be concerned with the fact that that may keep your statement of admission of guilt to specific things as a record.
EX: I stole some video games from the Walmart on 120th/Sheridan when I was 14.

You never know at what time in your life that list may 'go public'...even if it is never supposed to.

If you choose to admit anything, I'd be general and vague: EX: Shoplifted some things when I was a kid vs. the above Walmart example.

I might even spend a few hundred bucks for a good Criminal and/or Employment Lawyer and get some advice about what they CAN and CAN'T require you to do, under the law.
I was told by a lawyer, when a company wanted me to authorize them to look at any of my personal financial records as a condition to hire me, that 'They can do this...If you want the job, then sign it, else don't sign it"

Somehow I kind of feel like it is the police trying to get around the law. Similar to how they often tell you "Whatever you say can and will be used against you." but then try to use tactics to get you to talk ("We'll go easy on you if you cooperate", "Mind if we step in your house for a minute to talk ?" etc.)

I wish you the best of luck in your decision.

It is not an easy thing to freely admit guilt...just ask any Catholic that has gone or still goes to Confession.

[TheGrey]

Not accurate. Only arrests in which fingerprints were sent to CBI will be listed. You can be arrested (such as a DUI), processed and released without fingerprints and it doesn't show on your criminal record maintained by CBI. In my example, it will show on your driving record though.

Good to know! I usually do pull up the driving record, Cocourts and CBI... I must not have been fully caffeinated when I typed my answer. Thanks for the correction.

[Ranger353]

My brother has a good friend (I know him fairly well too) that had a deferred judgement along with sealing of the record. He was informed by both the judge and his attorney that if ever asked "have you been arrested and or convicted of a crime?" he could legally answer "no". A few years go by, he has purchased firearms through ffls and answered "no" wtih no problems-got the nics clearances. Last year he applies for a l.e. job, he answered "no", was ruled out in the initial go-round. He said a friend of his with said dept. told him that even though the record on his case was sealed it showed on their background search. Interesting, no?

When I was doing background investigations I often ran into this issue, sealed or ex-sponged arrests due to a differed sentence or a differed prosecution. It doesn't matter what you think is hidden, sealed, or removed, LE agencies will see it. The report we received reflected ALL arrests, not just convictions. That is the key, many people think the question is only pertaining to convictions and don't think beyond that. Not sure why they would think that, but if you have ever been "processed" and released then you have been arrested, and if asked "Have you ever been arrested?" then answer YES and explain it. Just some advice.