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    The "Godfather" of COAR Great-Kazoo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by mutt View Post
    "Held further, a business (including an association or society) may not avoid the manufacturing license, marking, and recordkeeping requirements of the GCA by allowing persons to perform manufacturing processes on blanks or incomplete firearms (including frames or receivers) using machinery, tools, or equipment under its dominion and control where that business controls access to, and use of, such machinery, tools, or equipment."

    Another decree by the ATF to decide what you do with your private property in a non-commercial setting. I can agree if you are a business, association or society that is charging for access to the tools, one could argue you are a commercial enterprise. But to make illegal a group of friends/enthusiasts getting together to have a build party? I see nothing in this ruling that exempts private individuals gathering together to share knowledge and tools. So if I allow a friend to come over and use my tools so he can finish a receiver am I breaking the law since I controlled access to, and use of, said tools?

    Of course this ruling, for now, will only be used selectively in a few high profile cases to strike fear into and force compliance from the masses. They won't go after private build parties just yet. However as possession of firearms becomes more criminalized in the coming decades, this ruling will be used to imprison many so called illicit arms manufacturers and traffickers.

    There is nothing common sense about this. I can see what's coming next - possessing tools designed to manufacture firearms by a non-FFL will be deemed illegal under some future re-interpretation of the GCA. Welcome to Amerika.

    No you will not, IF you do the work, then yes. They have to be in control of the tools used when mfg the receiver. An AK flat, they use the press to bend and spot weld rails.
    On an AR they use the mill, drill press, etc to finish the lower.

    One more reason i'm finishing my Form 1 stuff now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    No you will not, IF you do the work, then yes. They have to be in control of the tools used when mfg the receiver. An AK flat, they use the press to bend and spot weld rails.
    On an AR they use the mill, drill press, etc to finish the lower.

    One more reason i'm finishing my Form 1 stuff now.
    Are you sure? It seems pretty clear to me:

    "A business (including an association or society) may not avoid the manufacturing license, marking, and recordkeeping requirements under the GCA simply by allowing individuals to initiate or manipulate a CNC machine, or to use machinery, tools, or equipment under its dominion or control to perform manufacturing processes on blanks, unfinished frames or receivers, or incomplete weapons. In these cases, the business controls access to, and use of, its machinery, tools, and equipment. Following manufacture, the business “distributes” a firearm when it returns or otherwise disposes a finished frame or receiver, or complete weapon to its customer. Such individuals or entities are, therefore, “engaged in the business” of manufacturing firearms even though unlicensed individuals may have assisted them in the manufacturing process."

    Seems to me the ATF is saying just the act of providing facilities and tools means you assisted in the manufacturing process. If not the case why release this new ruling? People have been engaging in such activity since the GCA was passed. For the last 40+ years this activity was seen as lawful. Now all of a sudden it isn't?

    I am the first to admit I am not a lawyer. So if I am reading this wrong please educate me.

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