Bills in Colorado House to repeal gun laws enacted last year

[Rucker61]

I have been trying to figure out the 'best' answer on the BGC's. I don't think any of us want to sell to a felon, terrorist, etc, which is the point of the law. That is where I do believe the 90% statistic commonly used. The problem stems from the registration that many (not all) feel is the real reason behind the BGC's. What needs to happen is that there is a way that a seller can check the staus of the buyer without the required SN. That could be (relatively) simply setup, I would think. Maybe something like a "Go-No Go" based on a drivers license number. There are going to be abuses of any system and I can think of a few with this one. The point is a full repeal.... Gonna be hard (not impossible). If there is a well thought out alternative it has a better chance to succeed.

How about an iphone or android app doorway into NICS?

[Rucker61]

Just realize that the important Colorado law to get rid of is the BG check, not the magazine ban. That one should be a secondary concern.

The problem is that the Democrats tied it to a $10 fee that the CBI gets to keep. They diverted budgetary funds away from CBI to other pet projects, since background checks provide funding. They ain't never giving that money stream back.

[milwaukeeshaker]

This!!!

I have been trying to figure out the 'best' answer on the BGC's. I don't think any of us want to sell to a felon, terrorist, etc, which is the point of the law. That is where I do believe the 90% statistic commonly used. The problem stems from the registration that many (not all) feel is the real reason behind the BGC's. What needs to happen is that there is a way that a seller can check the staus of the buyer without the required SN. That could be (relatively) simply setup, I would think. Maybe something like a "Go-No Go" based on a drivers license number. There are going to be abuses of any system and I can think of a few with this one. The point is a full repeal.... Gonna be hard (not impossible). If there is a well thought out alternative it has a better chance to succeed.

[brutal]

I was just thinking about a P2P app that the buyer with a valid state issued DL could use to gen a one-time single use code to give the seller. The seller could then verify the buyer is GTG.

All you would need to do is keep the code for verification if there was ever an issue.

[zteknik]

I was just thinking about a P2P app that the buyer with a valid state issued DL could use to gen a one-time single use code to give the seller. The seller could then verify the buyer is GTG.

All you would need to do is keep the code for verification if there was ever an issue.

Too simple,not enough red tape to justify the budget of unnecessary workers...

[newracer]

[Honey Badger282.8]

How about we just make a firearms endorsement on state issued IDs? Make it an opt-out program so you don't have to worry about a registry because having the endorsement doesn't mean you are trying to buy a gun. No serial numbers or type of gun attached to any personal information, automatic firewall to a gun registry. Then when you go to purchase a firearm you only need to show the ID.

[GunsRBadMMMMKay]

How about we just stop worrying about controlling what free people can purchase and own, and direct the energy into punishing those who commit the crimes? (Maybe starting on the governing level LOL) I don't personally feel that any bgc or registration laws stop crimes, they only help create more criminals - and leave the door open for the underlying system/registration/etc to be exploited in the future.

[Zundfolge]

How about we just stop worrying about controlling what free people can purchase and own, and direct the energy into punishing those who commit the crimes? (Maybe starting on the governing level LOL) I don't personally feel that any bgc or registration laws stop crimes, they only help create more criminals - and leave the door open for the underlying system/registration/etc to be exploited in the future.

THIS. Because BGCs simply do not work. Criminals STILL get as many guns as they want and guns are not kept out of the hands of mentally ill people either. Keep in mind that EVERY mass shooter that got their guns legally went through BGCs. At best they are a waste of time and money and at worst they're a tool that can be used to undermine law abiding gun ownership.

[Eric P]

The problem is that the Democrats tied it to a $10 fee that the CBI gets to keep. They diverted budgetary funds away from CBI to other pet projects, since background checks provide funding. They ain't never giving that money stream back.

Is there any reason for the CBI to even be involved? Can FFLs directly access the federal system that CBI uses?

Cut the middleman, end the fee. No need to have extra non-essential employees if we can do without them.