ISIS burns Jordanian pilot alive

[PugnacAutMortem]

Not saying I have all the answers, hell I don't even have any of the answers. But I detest the "wipe them all out, who cares" attitude. It makes you (not you specifically...but anyone who feels that way) as despicable as they are because you show you have an equally shitty respect for human life. Does something need to be done? Absolutely. Anyone who says otherwise is ill informed or playing for the wrong team. But the whole "extermination" sentiment is just so vile and disgusting coming from people who appear to hold themselves as more human than groups such as ISIS.

[Chad4000]

Not saying I have all the answers, hell I don't even have any of the answers. But I detest the "wipe them all out, who cares" attitude. It makes you (not you specifically...but anyone who feels that way) as despicable as they are because you show you have an equally shitty respect for human life. Does something need to be done? Absolutely. Anyone who says otherwise is ill informed or playing for the wrong team. But the whole "extermination" sentiment is just so vile and disgusting coming from people who appear to hold themselves as more human than groups such as ISIS.

evil exists in this world my friend. so does right and wrong. we the people, wrote this check. blood and treasure. we get to make these calls. they are wrong, we are right. if you have an entire race of people who are either "extremist" or unwilling to write the same check that we wrote, something will need to be done. in this case, they've pushed and pushed and pushed. the kids can fight all they want in the back of the classroom, but once the teacher gets hit with a spit ball, everybody pays.

they need to be dealt with. in the only manor in which they can relate. we aren't talking about humans. we are talking about a race that is sub human. they arent as advanced, they do not understand diplomacy, order, right and wrong... they do not understand what it takes to be human, because they aren't. they don't understand mercy, or forgiveness. they don't understand emotion, or beauty, or love.... they are bread this way.

this is not our fault. they did this to themselves. and that's because that's what they want. it's all they've ever wanted, and its all they will ever get. they've been fighting for allah for thousands of years and it'll reach our shores at some point (already has...). that is a fact.

it's an ugly truth, but the sooner we level a few cities, the sooner they have a chance at understanding. the longer we let this kind of thing be ok, the longer it will go on. there is a very real possibility that "extermination" is literally the only answer to this problem. we may not be there yet, but we are close to finding out.

no need for lock btw, mods, edit my post if need be. but im speaking from the heart about a very real problem. im not blanket hating on random people....

[Bitter Clinger]

evil exists in this world my friend. so does right and wrong. we the people, wrote this check. blood and treasure. we get to make these calls. they are wrong, we are right. if you have an entire race of people who are either "extremist" or unwilling to write the same check that we wrote, something will need to be done. in this case, they've pushed and pushed and pushed. the kids can fight all they want in the back of the classroom, but once the teacher gets hit with a spit ball, everybody pays.

they need to be dealt with. in the only manor in which they can relate. we aren't talking about humans. we are talking about a race that is sub human. they arent as advanced, they do not understand diplomacy, order, right and wrong... they do not understand what it takes to be human, because they aren't. they don't understand mercy, or forgiveness. they don't understand emotion, or beauty, or love.... they are bread this way.

this is not our fault. they did this to themselves. and that's because that's what they want. it's all they've ever wanted, and its all they will ever get. they've been fighting for allah for thousands of years and it'll reach our shores at some point (already has...). that is a fact.

it's an ugly truth, but the sooner we level a few cities, the sooner they have a chance at understanding. the longer we let this kind of thing be ok, the longer it will go on. there is a very real possibility that "extermination" is literally the only answer to this problem. we may not be there yet, but we are close to finding out.

no need for lock btw, mods, edit my post if need be. but im speaking from the heart about a very real problem. im not blanket hating on random people....

Well said! I couldn't agree more.

[generalmeow]

evil exists in this world my friend. so does right and wrong. we the people, wrote this check. blood and treasure. we get to make these calls. they are wrong, we are right. if you have an entire race of people who are either "extremist" or unwilling to write the same check that we wrote, something will need to be done. in this case, they've pushed and pushed and pushed. the kids can fight all they want in the back of the classroom, but once the teacher gets hit with a spit ball, everybody pays.

they need to be dealt with. in the only manor in which they can relate. we aren't talking about humans. we are talking about a race that is sub human. they arent as advanced, they do not understand diplomacy, order, right and wrong... they do not understand what it takes to be human, because they aren't. they don't understand mercy, or forgiveness. they don't understand emotion, or beauty, or love.... they are bread this way.

this is not our fault. they did this to themselves. and that's because that's what they want. it's all they've ever wanted, and its all they will ever get. they've been fighting for allah for thousands of years and it'll reach our shores at some point (already has...). that is a fact.

it's an ugly truth, but the sooner we level a few cities, the sooner they have a chance at understanding. the longer we let this kind of thing be ok, the longer it will go on. there is a very real possibility that "extermination" is literally the only answer to this problem. we may not be there yet, but we are close to finding out.

no need for lock btw, mods, edit my post if need be. but im speaking from the heart about a very real problem. im not blanket hating on random people....

I feel like the people who don't see it this way, eventually will.

They are winning when we are doing anything less than exterminating them. Their entire strategy appears to be based on the fact that we won't try it, so all they need to do is wait and have more kids than us.

If you're not thinking about extermination, you're playing into their hands. You're doing what they want you to do, which is to get enraged about a videos like this, and support a ground war where we go in with both hands tied behind our backs and a news station on every corner reporting on all of their civilians we kill. They win this way. They win every single way. Except one. The one route they don't think we'll go (and we won't go, because we're all brainwashed into believing that they might understand something other than beserker ultaviolence).

I believe we'll be forced to attempt to go that route one day when we're backed into a corner, but by then it will be too late. They'll have infiltrated us and grown to the point where we can't stop them. Maybe we're already there.

I'm in favor of sending in ground troops right now, and I'll gladly go myself, and I'll let me son go one day, but only if there are no rules, and big money isn't calling the shots. I don't agree with our soldiers being sent places when there are rules or there is any other strategy than steamrolling. No rebuilding, no aid, no mercy, no training local forces, no installing friendly governments, no media. If it creates a vacuum for bad guys, that's great. That's perfect. We want them to all go to one place.

I guess it all boils down to the fact that they seem to have a perfect long term strategy, and there's only one thing we can do to stop them. So do you want to stop them, or don't you?

[davsel]

I feel like the people who don't see it this way, eventually will.

They are winning when we are doing anything less than exterminating them. Their entire strategy appears to be based on the fact that we won't try it, so all they need to do is wait and have more kids than us.

If you're not thinking about extermination, you're playing into their hands. You're doing what they want you to do, which is to get enraged about a videos like this, and support a ground war where we go in with both hands tied behind our backs and a news station on every corner reporting on all of their civilians we kill. They win this way. They win every single way. Except one. The one route they don't think we'll go (and we won't go, because we're all brainwashed into believing that they might understand something other than beserker ultaviolence).

I believe we'll be forced to attempt to go that route one day when we're backed into a corner, but by then it will be too late. They'll have infiltrated us and grown to the point where we can't stop them. Maybe we're already there.

I'm in favor of sending in ground troops right now, and I'll gladly go myself, and I'll let me son go one day, but only if there are no rules, and big money isn't calling the shots. I don't agree with our soldiers being sent places when there are rules or there is any other strategy than steamrolling. No rebuilding, no aid, no mercy, no training local forces, no installing friendly governments, no media. If it creates a vacuum for bad guys, that's great. That's perfect. We want them to all go to one place.

I guess it all boils down to the fact that they seem to have a perfect long term strategy, and there's only one thing we can do to stop them. So do you want to stop them, or don't you?

[fly boy]

I believe we'll be forced to attempt to go that route one day when we're backed into a corner, but by then it will be too late. They'll have infiltrated us and grown to the point where we can't stop them. Maybe we're already there.

I'm in favor of sending in ground troops right now, and I'll gladly go myself, and I'll let me son go one day, but only if there are no rules, and big money isn't calling the shots. I don't agree with our soldiers being sent places when there are rules or there is any other strategy than steamrolling. No rebuilding, no aid, no mercy, no training local forces, no installing friendly governments, no media. If it creates a vacuum for bad guys, that's great. That's perfect. We want them to all go to one place.

I agree with the point that they may have infiltrated the U.S. already. Also I agree with not sending troops into a place with no rules when we must follow our own. If we send American Soldiers to a Foreign fight, we should play by their rules.

A quick thought of "Black water" comes into my mind when sending in people for "no mercy" - I know this ruffles a lot of feathers, however, if needed to protect the U.S. I would gladly stop my career, and go over there and put in my time as long as there aren't U.S. rules, media, "big money," or politics involved. Put me on a rooftop with food, ammo, and some assistance, and let them get a taste of their medicine before they try their ideals on U.S. soil.


THIS IS MY OPINION ONLY - and most of us know what opinions are

[generalmeow]

But the whole "extermination" sentiment is just so vile and disgusting coming from people who appear to hold themselves as more human than groups such as ISIS.

BTW, I don't think I'm more human than them. But I do know that they insist that I become muslim, or they will kill me. The violent ones will cut my throat, and the moderate ones will hold me down.

Trying to negotiate with that doesn't make one morally superior, it makes one inferior. Nature insists that creatures go on the offensive sometimes to survive. We may be human, but we are also animals. And doing what the animal side says to do is almost always the right choice in the long term. The animal side knows what to do to survive based on millions of years of choices made and punished/rewarded. The human side is influenced by what the Kardashians think about it.