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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    There's a difference. We have actual measured data showing the effects of gravity and interplanetary space. We have pictures and live video proving the Copernican hypothesis. The global warming alarmists have model results which contradict with measured data, "settled science" papers with "peer review" which violate nearly every standard I grew up with (including deliberately cherry-picked data, charts flipped upside-down to fit the story, and collusion to fix the peer review and block any critical examination or opposing papers), and a set of defenders talking about "science" who couldn't pass high school physics.
    The difference is ENORMOUS...boils down to true facts of the Copernican hypothesis versus false climate change data manufactured out of thin air to meet a predetermined conclusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    The difference is ENORMOUS...boils down to true facts of the Copernican hypothesis versus false climate change data manufactured out of thin air to meet a predetermined conclusion.
    Hmmm... this jewel just came up in my news feed...

    http://www.politifact.com/punditfact...icated-temper/

    The U.S. Senate may have voted 98-1 that "climate change is real and not a hoax," but the accusation that government scientists have cooked the books and invented a warming trend is as robust as ever.Fox News host Dana Perino joined several of her colleagues this week in casting doubt on the data scientists use to track temperature changes over time. Perino’s comments came on Feb. 9, 2015, as she and her co-hosts on The Five somewhat sarcasticallydiscussed how the fight against Islamic State or ISIS drew attention away from other issues, such as climate change.
    "They're (the White House) actually kind of lucky that we don't cover climate change as much as we should," Perino said. "Because yesterday, it was reported that the temperature readings have been fabricated and it's all blowing up in their faces."
    Light a fire for a man, and he'll be warm for a day, light a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life...

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    Gives a sh!t; pretends he doesn't HoneyBadger's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by beast556 View Post
    It's about time this finally got straighten out. I was wondering why all those times I tryed to fly to china I never made it.
    Does this answer the question of the Malaysian Airlines missing flight?
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    Gives a sh!t; pretends he doesn't HoneyBadger's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SAPenguin View Post
    We laugh at this guy, but how many "climate change deniers" do we have in our own country? That science is settled too.
    I'm sorry, what?

    The science is settled. And the politics. It is a bunch of bullshit. That's why they had to change the name from "global warming" to "climate change". NOBODY can deny that the climate is changing. We've proven with boatloads of empirical evidence that the climate changes over time (Ever heard of an Ice age?). Now it's not even about science anymore. It's about politics and extortion.

    Back on topic, TFOGGER nailed it: "You know, at one time the Arabs were the pinnacle of scientific knowledge and discovery. Unfortunately, that was about a thousand years ago, and they apparently have not progressed since."
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    ... Now it's not even about science anymore. It's about politics and extortion.
    And don't forget those carbon credits.
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    I'm glad some real science has been applied to solve this, with ground breaking results.

    Is the theory of evolution next on his list?
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    Reminds me of Guam capsizing into the ocean.
    "There are no finger prints under water."

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    Hmmm... this jewel just came up in my news feed...

    http://www.politifact.com/punditfact...icated-temper/
    Additionally, some of the instruments used to log measurements were ill-placed.

    http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/...-heat-sources/

    But there's a problem: Nearly every single weather station the U.S. government uses to measure the country's surface temperature may be compromised. Sensors that are supposed to be in empty clearings are instead exposed to crackling electronics and other unlikely sources of heat, from exhaust pipes and trash-burning barrels to chimneys and human graves.
    Communists (liberals, progressives, democrats) will go to any length to debase the truth and fabricate a story to steal money from and gain power over the citizenry. The ends justify the means in their malignant view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAPenguin View Post
    We laugh at this guy, but how many "climate change deniers" do we have in our own country? That science is settled too.
    This made me LMAO this morning
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