FCC Approves Net Neutrality

[theGinsue]

but I think we can all agree that a level playing field is American.

No, I strongly disagree. A "level playing field" has NEVER been part of America. America is about opportunities to challenge yourself to excel above your own station, and those of others. It's neither level nor fair. A "level playing field" is another version of the "redistribution of wealth" - it can only succeed by taking from one and giving to another. It can only be done by government forced compliance. And, when it's done by the government it's communism/socialism, not American.

You may have drank the Kool-Aid here, but the .gov getting involved bodes poorly for us.

ETA: Haven't you learned by now than any time this administration fails to provide the transparency in the process, as was promised during the original election campaign, it's always bad for us?

Also need to add that shopping list of taxes we have on our phone bills.

Yep. Welcome to a host of new internet regulatory fees. But at least, with these new .gov fees, you'll get to see the poor underprivileged in your community getting their new ObamaNet for free.

if they limit what private companies can charge for products they are limiting what private companies will spend to develop better products and services. Why spend millions of dollars if their is no return on the investment.

BINGO! This (IMHO) is the second worst thing about this.

[TFOGGER]

*NSFW*

but funny as hell...

Mostly because it's true.

[Hound]

Ya... Not so big on the Robber Baron days. Never is a big word and you are flat wrong on that one..... Just ask Morgan, Rockafeller, AT&T, etc.

I believe history shows America does believe in a fair playing field not an Aristocracy. That is what Net Neutrality gets us (if they implement it correctly).

No, I strongly disagree. A "level playing field" has NEVER been part of America. America is about opportunities to challenge yourself to excel above your own station, and those of others. It's neither level nor fair. A "level playing field" is another version of the "redistribution of wealth" - it can only succeed by taking from one and giving to another. It can only be done by government forced compliance. And, when it's done by the government it's communism/socialism, not American.

You may have drank the Kool-Aid here, but the .gov getting involved bodes poorly for us.

ETA: Haven't you learned by now than any time this administration fails to provide the transparency in the process, as was promised during the original election campaign, it's always bad for us.

[jslo]

Ya... Not so big on the Robber Baron days. Never is a big word and you are flat wrong on that one..... Just ask Morgan, Rockafeller, AT&T, etc.

I believe history shows America does believe in a fair playing field not an Aristocracy. That is what Net Neutrality gets us (if they implement it correctly).

A "fair" playing field is one thing. A "level" playing field is another. Your original comment was the latter.

[trlcavscout]

*NSFW*

but funny as hell...

Mostly because it's true.

It may be true if you don't know how the FCC and city contracts work I guess. But it is funny. The customer service part is true with any company of any size though!

[Hound]

Fair enough... but I think it is symantics. I also don't think it is worth an argument over the point.

A "fair" playing field is one thing. A "level" playing field is another. Your original comment was the latter.

[Bailey Guns]

If you're for government getting involved in this, no fair bitching when government gets involved in anything else...and fucks it up. Like gun bans, "armor-piercing" ammo bans, magazine capacity limits, health insurance, etc.

[DAL357]

If you're for government getting involved in this, no fair bitching when government gets involved in anything else...and fucks it up. Like gun bans, "armor-piercing" ammo bans, magazine capacity limits, health insurance, etc.

+1

Years ago, I read a book named the "Myth of the Robber Barrons" by an author whose name I've forgotten; I still have that book somewhere and I'll have to dig it out and peruse it again, it's definitely worth a re-read. You should make an effort to find and read a copy, Hound.

The mere fact that something like this can pass without an open and clear airing of all of its contents shows just how dead the republic is, and how little pols. respect their electorate. The fact that Americans aren't up in arms about this and a thousand other transgressions usurping their precious liberty shows how little respect they deserve. Every successful outrage that passes emboldens the next one; I'm afraid we're much too far down the road to stop the inevitable conclusion of all this.

[68Charger]

(if they implement it correctly).

And there is the problem... I don't trust that government has my best interests in mind when they create laws or rulings... And I trust this administration much less than typical government.

[Zundfolge]

Years ago, I read a book named the "Myth of the Robber Barrons" by an author whose name I've forgotten; I still have that book somewhere and I'll have to dig it out and peruse it again, it's definitely worth a re-read. You should make an effort to find and read a copy, Hound.

Burton Folsom. An excellent book all around. Here's a lecture he gave on the subject (a little over an hour ... but quicker than reading the book).