NFA Lawsuits: Hollis v. Holder; Watson v. Holder New Machine Guns/Ending the NFA

[Bailey Guns]

I read the entire brief. They are attacking the NFA on 2nd, 5th, 9th, 10th, and Commerce Clause basis. Also, the ATFE doesn't have authority to rescind a stamp that was approved and issued after the fact. The logic and cited precedents make me believe that and objective panel will rule for the plaintiff, pitching pretty much the whole NFA AND the restrictions in FOPA out the fuckin window.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/245057730/...lder-Complaint

Ooppps... There goes the case.

[TFOGGER]

It would be hilarious if Holder, et al, failed to respond in a timely manner, and the plaintiff were granted a summary judgement..

[sniper7]

It would be hilarious if Holder, et al, failed to respond in a timely manner, and the plaintiff were granted a summary judgement..

Maybe we should all start getting up in arms about ferguson to keep him busy.

[Eric P]

I guess keeping laws complicated keeps government in power and lawyers in jobs.

So much for government being for, by and of the people.

[kidicarus13]

Complicated laws makes everyone a criminal for those times when the gov't needs control over someone.

[SG1]

Complicated laws makes everyone a criminal for those times when the gov't needs control over someone.

“There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.”

― Ayn Rand

“We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force.” ~Ayn Rand

“America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.”
― Alexis de Tocqueville

“Society will develop a new kind of servitude which covers the surface of society with a network of complicated rules, through which the most original minds and the most energetic characters cannot penetrate. It does not tyrannise but it compresses, enervates, extinguishes, and stupefies a people, till each nation is reduced to nothing better than a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd.”
― Alexis de Tocqueville

"If this is how the state treats its law-abiding citizens, it doesn't deserve to have any" --Solzhenitsyn

[SG1]

23 of April is when we find out.

[SG1]

Orders don't come in on a schedule. You wont know any outcome even post-hearing, usually.

Further, this will only determine if the suit moves forward. So, there isn't much to find out.

I know...It is still amazing to think of what could happen when/should we win....I mean did you ever think we would take this on?

I mean we should have taken it on sooner but hey at least we are pushing back.

[SG1]

See you on the battlefield.

[SG1]

Now we play the waiting game...