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    Machine Gunner spyder's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    Spyder, you're just an elitist jerk...
    Ha! lol

    I've met, and talked with peeps at Hk quite a bit... There is a big difference between the thoughts of the German side, and the American side, a big difference... Sadly enough though, who's to say that they can't say "We are going to build what they want to build, and if you don't like it, you don't have to buy it." Ya, people are going to get their panties in a bunch over it, but as a business owner, are you going to give in to what they want, or stick to how you do things? Now rather that is a smart move or not, is another story... Also, the American side IS trying to listen, and have been for years.

    I also shoot Hk's and choose to run them because they are the most indestructible over the shelf gun there is hands down. That's not just my "fun filled opinion", but a fact that I, and many other's have been keeping track of that I am in contact with in the same business... I've fixed too damn many Glock's, Beretta's, XD's, M&P's, and the least by FNH to care for them. Yes, I've worked on an Hk, but it was a P7 that was too dirty to move.... I've also seen a Glock slide break in two, and saw pictures of the aftermath from another that did the same thing.

    Some would say I'm an elitist.... I just say I will shoot what I think is best with what I know.

    Also, the ownership has changed hands with Hk too many times, and a lot of the "attitude" from Germany comes from this. They see the government contracts as a way out of their debt, and have put blinders on about it, and charged forward. The VP9 was the first bit of thinking that didn't come from this train of thought. It was made with the "people" in mind, and that's why it comes in at the $530 price point. Hell, the who thing with the G36 is a shining example of the way the German side thinks... why fix the damn things that they know have slight accuracy issues due to it's trunnion design when heated up when they can just try to sway the German Government into a new contract with the 416, or G38 or whatever in the hell they're going to re-designate it.

    I don't agree with Germany. I do however agree with the American side, and no matter how much someone hates something they heard about them through other people, their guns are worth every penny.
    Last edited by spyder; 05-02-2015 at 13:54.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spyder View Post
    Sadly enough though, who's to say that they can't say "screw you, we're doing things the way we want?" I mean seriously... if any of you ran a business and someone said "you have to change the way you do things because it's not the way I like it", you would tell them to pound sand too. Hell.... I already have. Ya, people are going to get their panties in a bunch over it, but are you going to give in to what they want, or stick to how you do things?
    I'm not a business man, never have been, probably never will be, but if that "someone" you are telling to pound sand, happens to be your biggest potential client, you are doing something wrong. I hope HK telling us civilians to pound sand, bites them in the ass. I could care less about HK, as I've never cracked the slide on a Glock, or had issues with M&P's...

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