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    Sawin, You need to come to the Raton Sporting Rifle Match or other matches like it and and then re-evaluate what you consider LR shooting.
    We often will shoot a 17lb rifle off of sticks, from a ledge, across a valley, in 10+mph winds, at 6-10" targets, at distances of 400-600y yards. All while on a timer.
    Let's see is 5% of you average hunter can do that.

    Back to the topic at hand: Yes 6.5 is still better in every way.
    If your post count is higher than your round count, you are a troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delfuego View Post
    Sawin, You need to come to the Raton Sporting Rifle Match or other matches like it and and then re-evaluate what you consider LR shooting.
    We often will shoot a 17lb rifle off of sticks, from a ledge, across a valley, in 10+mph winds, at 6-10" targets, at distances of 400-600y yards. All while on a timer.
    Let's see is 5% of you average hunter can do that.

    Back to the topic at hand: Yes 6.5 is still better in every way.
    Except that ammo and components will be unavailable. If your foraging you may find a tin of steel cased 308 in a basement, very unlikely to find 6.5 in any quantity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delfuego View Post
    Sawin, You need to come to the Raton Sporting Rifle Match or other matches like it and and then re-evaluate what you consider LR shooting.
    We often will shoot a 17lb rifle off of sticks, from a ledge, across a valley, in 10+mph winds, at 6-10" targets, at distances of 400-600y yards. All while on a timer.
    Let's see is 5% of you average hunter can do that.

    Back to the topic at hand: Yes 6.5 is still better in every way.
    Yes, I do! That sounds like a fantastic time and great training!
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    Sawin - Feedback thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawin View Post
    Yes, I do! That sounds like a fantastic time and great training!
    Yeap, Matches like the Steel Safari are specifically designed around the hunting mindset. You walk up to the shoot position, the RO shows you the right and left limits and tells you 6 targets at one position or 3 targets from 2 positions, and says go. You have 5 minutes to find, range, and engage your 6 shots (oh and btw the targets aren't painted so they blend in pretty well) And maybe 50-60% of the shots are prone and the rest you have to work around the natural terrain obstacles and target placement. There's very few targets that are level with the shoot position, some high, some low, etc. Winds are weird due to canyons funneling them, and the time pressure and the competition ratchets up the pressure to put just as much or more stress on the shooter as hunting does. It's a hoot!

    That said, back to the original premise, if you're counting on foraging for ammo, you're already fawked. And If I'm mobile, I'm not hauling around my big heavy precision rifles.

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