Court: Second Amendment also covers those in US illegally

[Great-Kazoo]

Wait, what? How does a noncitizen, present in this country without legal status, have any claim whatsoever to any of the rights (and the commensurate responsibilities!) of a citizen or person with legal residency status? Seriously, are the judges of the 7th Circuit that fucking stupid?

You're forgetting the Lefts demand terrorist be read their rights and tried in a U.S Court of law, vs military tribunal.

[Irving]

How can we even try to have an intelligent conversation if anyone thinks it's realistic to deport a person who was brought here when he was five years-old?

[cstone]

The federal government is incapable of deporting hundreds of thousands, much less millions of people who have over stayed their visas. IMO, self-deportation is the only realistic method for dealing with illegal immigration.

Our nation also needs to come to terms with the addiction We have to cheap labor. When laws are enforced that penalize businesses and criminally prosecute corporate owners that profit on the employment of cheap illegal immigrant labor and force employers to employ legal residents, many immigrants will self-deport and even more potential immigrants will not come to the USA. The cheap illegal immigrant labor is actually subsidized by the taxpayers who provide many of the services utilized by people who need those services because of the conditions of their employment.

Ammending the Constitution to address birth right citizenship is probably as unrealistic as getting either of the major parties to address their own self interest in encouraging the current trends in illegal immigration. For all Donald Trump's bluster on the subject, I'm afraid this issue is beyond the ability of our national government to deal with. We made this problem and have compounded the complexities of the problem over the past 70 years. I think that only some very significant national tragedy will embolden the electorate to address illegal immigration.

[Dave_L]

How can we even try to have an intelligent conversation if anyone thinks it's realistic to deport a person who was brought here when he was five years-old?

Seriously. Age 6 is my cut off.

[68Charger]

How can we even try to have an intelligent conversation if anyone thinks it's realistic to deport a person who was brought here when he was five years-old?

Is this like squatter's rights, or more like statute of limitations? I don't have a problem with a path to citizenship, but I do with somebody knowing they're here illegally and continuing to do nothing about it.
I also have a problem with officials/administration that just ignore the law for their political agenda... but that's reality.

[Irving]

What exactly would you do if you were brought here by your parents when you were five years old?

[brutal]

I was brought here by my parents when I was one year old.

[Irving]

Well, I how you don't feel safe at night and why haven't you gone back to wherever you were born yet?

[68Charger]

What exactly would you do if you were brought here by your parents when you were five years old?

That's a pretty damn open-ended question... I'm sure there would be 1000s of factors that would determine what I would EXACTLY do... but I'll bite-
If I didn't want to feel like a fugitive from the law all the time, I'd find out what it took to become a citizen and go thru the process- but then again, I was an ambitious child.

Otherwise, I'd feel like a fugitive if I was in this country illegally. I'm sure you can come up with excuses about he was raised that way- doesn't change the fact he is here illegally.

[Gman]

What exactly would you do if you were brought here by your parents when you were five years old?

What's being done about the next 10,000 illegal 5 year olds? Nothing.

We can keep debating this issue until the cows come home. Not a damn thing is being done to stem the flow.

We can't even observe the rule of holes; When you find you're in one, put down the shovel.