List of places no one should be allowed to possess a firearm:

[Big E3]

HB, It appears you are reading some of what I posted, however, not sure why you bring up other issues. In the spirit of discussion I will respond to your other issues. I totally agree a person, with or without a gun, is committing trespass if they don't leave your business if asked. I also agree no one should be allowed to "do whatever they want" in your business. Good issues that may deserve further discussion but they have nothing to do with what I'm talking about.

I'm talking about a gun legally in the pocket of a patron that nobody knows even exists. And if, this patron uses that gun to thwart an attack without firing a shot. I say that just because you own the business you should have no right to a legal remedy against a patron simply because they legally have a gun and you find out and don't like it. Simply owning a business and having a gun free sign does not afford someone the right to take another person's second amendment right to self defense. I know some business owners can and do wield that kind power over the minions but I believe in this country they should have never been given that authority. I believe we should not allow any citizen to have that control over another just because they have a business. There are many advantages to owning a business just not disarming legally armed citizens.

It appears to be your position as the owner of a movie theater, with "no guns" posted at the door, you could have somebody with a gun arrested for trespass because they popped James Holmes in the head before anybody else died. I believe that attitude is exactly why these shootings happen in the first place. People believing they have the right to create a gun spree zone without any responsibility for the consequences.

You have said nothing that convinces me that you as a business owner have the authority to disarm me in your business unless I'm doing something illegal with the gun. Carrying it in my pocket is not illegal with a permit nor should it be in your business. I believe the only right a business owner has would be to see a copy of my permit if he suspects I'm armed and if I'm asked I must be truthful about possession.

[Aloha_Shooter]

I'm talking about a gun legally in the pocket of a patron that nobody knows even exists. And if, this patron uses that gun to thwart an attack without firing a shot. I say that just because you own the business you should have no right to a legal remedy against a patron simply because they legally have a gun and you find out and don't like it. Simply owning a business and having a gun free sign does not afford someone the right to take another person's second amendment right to self defense.

Yes it does. It's called private property rights. The Second Amendment forbids the GOVERNMENT from keeping you weaponless (with some exceptions that I hope will eventually be overturned). Your right to carry/speak/worship/etc. does not outweigh MY right to control what's happening on MY property. You have every right to not patronize my store or services. Now, if your piece is properly concealed, the property owner will never know unless/until you have to use it. At that point, the property owner can thank you for your action, ask you to leave their premises, ignore your actions, etc.

I know some business owners can and do wield that kind power over the minions but I believe in this country they should have never been given that authority. I believe we should not allow any citizen to have that control over another just because they have a business. There are many advantages to owning a business just not disarming legally armed citizens.

I get it, like so many liberals, you want to dictate what the business can do with its property and how it can regulate its clientele. I suppose next you will say restaurants have no right to post signs saying "No shirt, No shoes, No business" or that the gun stores that posted signs saying Obama voters were unwelcome had to do business with those cretins.

It appears to be your position as the owner of a movie theater, with "no guns" posted at the door, you could have somebody with a gun arrested for trespass because they popped James Holmes in the head before anybody else died. I believe that attitude is exactly why these shootings happen in the first place. People believing they have the right to create a gun spree zone without any responsibility for the consequences.

I believe the "no guns" attitude is foul and attracts miscreants like Holmes but it is their right to post those rules at a private business. They can't charge you with trespass unless/until you refuse to leave when asked but they don't give up their private property rights.

You have said nothing that convinces me that you as a business owner have the authority to disarm me in your business unless I'm doing something illegal with the gun. Carrying it in my pocket is not illegal with a permit nor should it be in your business. I believe the only right a business owner has would be to see a copy of my permit if he suspects I'm armed and if I'm asked I must be truthful about possession.

You seem to believe all businesses are public accommodations much like the ACLU and Obama do. Unfortunately for your point -- and fortunately for us -- most courts still seem to recognize most private property rights despite the infamous cake and photographer rulings.

[HoneyBadger]

HB, It appears you are reading some of what I posted, however, not sure why you bring up other issues.
You have said nothing that convinces me that you as a business owner have the authority to disarm me in your business unless I'm doing something illegal with the gun. Carrying it in my pocket is not illegal with a permit nor should it be in your business. I believe the only right a business owner has would be to see a copy of my permit if he suspects I'm armed and if I'm asked I must be truthful about possession.

Dude... NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT DISARMING ANYONE.