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Cstone 01/01/2015
"I believe that we are all one mistake away from tragedy...and the mistake made may not be ours."
I started talking to other contractors that I occasionally run into on the job. I knew for a long time that they make way more money than I do for what they did, but it never really occurred to me that I was already qualified to do that job. After months of being dissatisfied with my pay, I started talking to these guys (on a pretty friendly basis at this point) about what they do, and what they get compensated. Everyone was very open, told me exactly what they do and exactly how much they get paid to do it. I made the decision to pursue that job instead in a single day.
"There are no finger prints under water."
I don't really have any advice or suggestions, just some words of encouragement. I recently left an agency after 10 years of service. I had good seniority, Monday through Friday with holidays off (when everyone else was doing shift work), was well known and well liked etc. I liked my job and have nothing bad to say about my previous employer, but I hit a wall, I just didn't feel like I was going anywhere, both financially and career wise.
My new job is in the same field, just different agency, the pay is about the same starting, but after a year I'll be making about $9k more a year than my last job, and the new retirement is way better. My new schedule is horrible but I have to pay my dues.
I guess what I'm getting at is don't be afraid of change. I'll never forget the day I pulled my Captain aside to let him know I'd be giving my two weeks notice. It was one of the hardest things I've ever done, but refreshing at the same time. It was really hard letting go of friends and co workers, but at the end of the day, I had to do what was best for me and my family. Good luck with your future career, you are a great guy and any company would be lucky to have you.
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I totally get where you're coming from. Techies like me usually go into management...but I don't want to be a manager. I really feel like a change would be good for me, but I still haven't figured out what I want to be when I grow up.
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I wish technology solved people issues. It seems to just reveal them.
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I'm 16+ years in the same company. I've received yearly pay raises, met my wife, and I still get promoted. Some days I come home thinking WTF an I still doing here, but I like the stability over compensation. I get paid ok for someone that has no college degree.
Message me if you want to get into the tech field. You're not necessary starting over, your skills can be used in other lines of work.
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Multiple Ditto's here.
After 23 years at the same company doing stressful, high profile IT work in very niche area, I've really started to dislike my job the last year or so do to significant changes in the work structure and measurement. I've managed folks earlier in my career and didn't enjoy it much although I generally get along well with almost everyone. Working from home with about 35% travel required nationally also has become comfortable, and the pay is good. I would like to retire in 4-5 years but not sure I can make that work. It's getting harder to meet the ever increasing goals required of work, and I'm not sure I can keep myself relevant for the long haul. I would gladly take a cut in pay to ease up on the stress.
Good luck in your search for a better life.
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I really have not changed careers, been doing almost the same thing for 15 years. All I can say is good luck. Change can be a good thing, especially if you are not happy.
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I'm in a similar position man. I'm in my late 30's and early in life I was in banking, sales (which I ended up being pretty darn good at) management & finally took off doing my own thing with eBay sales and finally real estate investment. I dabbled in IT over the years as it was just something that interested me & I looked back in my previous jobs working for someone else and I was the defacto IT guy since there was no such thing at that time. The problem now is that in this area IT is hard w/o a college education and I have none to speak of. I've had previous IT job offers in Nebraska where we're from and then some further North in the oil areas of North Dakota and such but decided against that move because we really like where we are in Norther Colorado.
I took several years off to care for my mother while she was fighting breast cancer who passed away recently. Due to that there was some options but just the wrong timing. I've begun to get back on that employment horse more seriously now as the savings are dwindling. Not really sure what it is I would like to do but I know that at my age I'm not going to flip fries at some corporation who couldn't care less about me. I need to find a quality employer to align myself with as I know I'm a great employee with a lot to offer the right company. It's just finding that opportunity that is proving to be a challenge. Gone are the days where I can walk in, shake someone's hand and introduce myself to a hiring principal and allowing them to see that I'm a smart human being despite my lack of secondary education. Now it seems the entire job market has shifted to this online application interface that takes half a day to complete only to get shit canned due to my college education not stacking up to the other 300 applicants they have. It's become frustrating before I've really even started in earnest.
I'm pretty flexible to what it is I'm doing an open to new ideas I may not have thought of but I'd rather not commute and I'd rather not travel 50% plus of my work week as those jobs can drain quickly. Something 9-5 m-f type thing (don't mind coming in earlier in the morning versus staying late) and if I can find something 4x10 that's even better. I'd like office work or something even from home partially if an option as I work well alone or with a team. Who knows, maybe someone here will know of an opportunity and know someone I can submit a resume directly to or speak with directly and see if we'd be a decent fit for each other?
I just get tired of seeing potential opportunities come up, spending half of a day filling out their online application and then not hearing anything. I even applied at CostCo recently and Walmart years ago and never heard a word. Really? Am I that un hire-able suddenly? I've got two decades of work/life experience, I'm a quality employee who's a dependable worker who never calls in sick, I've been a corporate trainer for several larger companies and been trusted with millions of dollars in cash and prizes, have managed successful teams of employees and even started several very successful companies of my own. I can't get a job ringing up people's crates of sugar packets at CostCo for $20/hr?
I debated getting a degree but that puts me in my 40's and with massive debt that I'd rather not take on right now if it can be avoided. I was successful before w/o a college degree so I think it's possible to do so still. I thought about learning to code (I've dabbled but nothing official) and various languages as that sounds like a large need right now but is that really what I want to do for the next couple of decades? I dunno.
I guess I have nothing positive to offer you other than a kindred support and hope that maybe through us all talking maybe we can do some COAR15 networking and get something figured out for a few of us.
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