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    I watch the news.....
    They tell me that there are like 5 millions times more guns than people in the U.S.
    This article doesn't seem to want to support that.

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    I don't believe there are only 60K guns in this state. Not for a second.

    ATF says there are 2,039 FFLs in our state as of Aug 2015. 1,602 of those are 01 and 02. That would mean each dealer has sold only 40 guns on average for the life of their business. That's a weekly number for some dealers that have been open for decades.

    https://www.atf.gov/firearms/listing...sees-ffls-2015


    Here's a piece on the BGC law failing to show 40% of guns bought without a background check...

    http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...-than-expected

    In total, there were about 311,000 background checks done during the first year of the expansion in Colorado, meaning the 13,600 checks between private sellers made up about 4 percent of the state total.
    311K/year. The number of those related to new guns (I don't know it) is the annual increase. Each check can be for multiple weapons as well.

    Yup, not buying it.

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    I think there are a few local shops that might sell 60K between now and Christmas.

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    The claim that "40% of gun sales are done without a check" is hilarious. This is where that claim comes from:

    " based on a single 1994 telephone survey on private gun ownership conducted by the Police Foundation and funded by the Justice Department. The survey asked the 251 participants who had acquired guns in the previous two years, “Was the person you acquired this gun from a licensed firearm dealer?” The answer choices were “yes,” “probably was/think so,” “probably not,” “no/definitely not,” “don’t know” and refuse to report."

    http://www.factcheck.org/2013/03/gun...ground-checks/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    I don't believe there are only 60K guns in this state. Not for a second.
    It looks like the numbers are limited to "registered guns" then the only guns that are "registered" in Colorado are NFA items ... I could easily believe there are 60k NFA firearms in CO.



    I also wonder how many guns are sold in private transactions without BGCs ... not here to advocate for such civil disobedience, but I do wonder how much it happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    It looks like the numbers are limited to "registered guns" then the only guns that are "registered" in Colorado are NFA items ... I could easily believe there are 60k NFA firearms in CO.

    I also wonder how many guns are sold in private transactions without BGCs ... not here to advocate for such civil disobedience, but I do wonder how much it happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    It looks like the numbers are limited to "registered guns" then the only guns that are "registered" in Colorado are NFA items ... I could easily believe there are 60k NFA firearms in CO.



    I also wonder how many guns are sold in private transactions without BGCs ... not here to advocate for such civil disobedience, but I do wonder how much it happens.
    I have actually had a couple people at times ask me to sell items without BGCs (not on the forum, on armslist). I refused to have that discussion and violate the law, but I bet the amount of people who will do this is relatively high.
    I don't make the rules. I just think them up and write them down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post

    I also wonder how many guns are sold in private transactions without BGCs ... not here to advocate for such civil disobedience, but I do wonder how much it happens.
    I've never heard of anyone doing that...
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    Wyoming at #1. Looking better by the day.

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    How many members does this site have? I would propose to you that the average member owns 10 guns. The registered thing is weird. They are using the terminology to mislead or tweak data for some reason.

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