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    New regulations that can put you in JAIL. WTF!

    https://www.faa.gov/uas/registration/

    Not a law passed by any legislature, just a new rule that carries the force of law.
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    https://www.ar-15.co/threads/144927-...81#post1939281

    Yeah, the "rule" applies to all rc or computer controlled aircraft over .55lbs. Multirotors, helicopters, blimps, gliders, etc. The "rule" could even be interpreted to include kites.

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    One key:
    The FAA proposal offers safety rules for small UAS (under 55 pounds) conducting non-recreational operations.
    so if you're not using it for profit (taking pictures you sell, for example- and putting them on youtube for compensation is a questionable area if you get ad revenue), then you don't need to register.

    Typical that these rules just don't apply well where I live.. 47 acres, rolling hills- Just the daytime only restriction chaps my ass, I'd like to run it at 3am to see if that little light I see is someone trespassing, or a flashlight- carrying deer.
    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ, we are the III%, CIP2, and some other catchphrase meant to aggravate progreSSives who are hell bent on taking rights away...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 00tec View Post
    https://www.ar-15.co/threads/144927-...81#post1939281

    Yeah, the "rule" applies to all rc or computer controlled aircraft over .55lbs. Multirotors, helicopters, blimps, gliders, etc. The "rule" could even be interpreted to include kites.
    FAA site says 55Lbs (25kg), not .55 Lbs
    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ, we are the III%, CIP2, and some other catchphrase meant to aggravate progreSSives who are hell bent on taking rights away...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 68Charger View Post
    FAA site says 55Lbs (25kg), not .55 Lbs
    Q. Which unmanned aircraft may register under the new registration requirements?
    A. Unmanned aircraft weighing less than 55 pounds and more than 0.55 pounds (250 grams) on takeoff, including everything that is on board or otherwise attached to the aircraft and operated outdoors in the national airspace system must register. These aircraft may register under the new web-based registration system.


    Q. If I don't have a scale and my drone doesn't appear on the list is there another method to tell how much it weighs?
    A. Two sticks of butter weigh 0.5lbs.

    https://www.faa.gov/uas/registration/faqs/

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    Quote Originally Posted by 00tec View Post
    Q. Which unmanned aircraft may register under the new registration requirements?
    A. Unmanned aircraft weighing less than 55 pounds and more than 0.55 pounds (250 grams) on takeoff, including everything that is on board or otherwise attached to the aircraft and operated outdoors in the national airspace system must register. These aircraft may register under the new web-based registration system.


    Q. If I don't have a scale and my drone doesn't appear on the list is there another method to tell how much it weighs?
    A. Two sticks of butter weigh 0.5lbs.

    https://www.faa.gov/uas/registration/faqs/
    that seems to directly contradict this:
    https://www.faa.gov/uas/nprm/
    The FAA proposal offers safety rules for small UAS (under 55 pounds) conducting non-recreational operations.
    And so when can you continue to operate under the rules for "model aircraft"?
    The new rules would not apply to model aircraft. However, model aircraft operators must continue to satisfy all of the criteria specified in Sec. 336 of Public Law 112-95, including the stipulation that they be operated only for hobby or recreational purposes.
    https://www.faa.gov/uas/model_aircraft/
    The statutory parameters of a model aircraft operation are outlined in Section 336 of Public Law 112-95 (the FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012) (PDF). Individuals who fly within the scope of these parameters do not require permission to operate their UAS; any flight outside these parameters (including any non-hobby, non-recreational operation) requires FAA authorization. For example, using a UAS to take photos for your personal use is recreational; using the same device to take photographs or videos for compensation or sale to another individual would be considered a non-recreational operation.
    https://www.faa.gov/uas/media/Sec_331_336_UAS.pdf

    deliberate obfuscation, incompetence by gov't, or just strong arm tactics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 68Charger View Post
    deliberate obfuscation, incompetence by gov't, or just strong arm tactics?
    What is: "All of the above" for eleventy billion dollars.

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    Molon Aabe.

    That is all.


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    The stated purposed is to get a list of people to distribute safety materials from time to time to make safer skies

    I'm torn. As a private pilot, there are many UAS operators that fly too high, or too close to airports without any regard to safety for manned flight. On the other hand, Im not much for more govt regulation.

    The rules were made because legislature already passed laws charging the FAA with registering any aircraft in US airspace. The FAA didn't previously require small UAD to register, and now they do. It does seem there are laws on the books to support this change, at least at face value. Who knows what particulars will be uncovered when legal council gets involved.

    The one thing that I do sincerely hope comes from this, either way, is UAS operators who are more concerned with safety issues they may cause in the NAS. It's just a few hundred bucks for them, but it could be 4 lives for my and my passengers if we collide. Whether that comes from people taking this upon themselves to avoid new legislation, or new legislation, I hope that is one positive outcome here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J View Post
    The one thing that I do sincerely hope comes from this, either way, is UAS operators who are more concerned with safety issues they may cause in the NAS. It's just a few hundred bucks for them, but it could be 4 lives for my and my passengers if we collide. Whether that comes from people taking this upon themselves to avoid new legislation, or new legislation, I hope that is one positive outcome here.
    J, sincere question here:
    Are you thinking something like hghclsswhitetrsh has pictured could cause serious problems to a small plane?
    Or something bigger, like the "55 lb" drone, obviously?
    Obviously not a golfer.

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