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    Quote Originally Posted by stevew View Post
    I'm a drone owner and follow the rules so you need to change that above to something less than 100% of the drone folks don't seem to be able....
    Also flown in a lot of single engine planes and taken off and landed while seated next to my dad back in the 60's or 70's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukeeshaker View Post
    Just yankin yer chain buddy, can't be that much of a jerky on Christmas.

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    Maybe this isn't about drones? Maybe private aircraft are the end game and maybe the plan is for so much regulation that the independents of flight is at stake. Truck drivers are being pushed out right now with regs. Looks like the same tactics. For our safety.
    It's better to die upon your feet than to live upon your knees!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madusa View Post
    Maybe this isn't about drones? Maybe private aircraft are the end game and maybe the plan is for so much regulation that the independents of flight is at stake. Truck drivers are being pushed out right now with regs. Looks like the same tactics. For our safety.
    Private aircraft all have to be registered in the US. Ever notice that every airplane has a number on the side of it that starts with an N? That is the aircraft's registration. A Cessna 172 and a Boeing 747 are two completely different things than an RC model helicopter that can carry a camera around. This whole registration thing is nothing more than a money and information grab under the disguise of making the public feel more comfortable when it does not improve safety one bit.

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    On another forum, reading how one of the bigger RC groups are having a fit. They are even saying non compliance for now. They have a 1000 acre place they have championships and no provision was made for foreign flyers. A rep I guess said they could create a temp registration that takes a few months to get filed and returned which wont work with short notice because they go from quals to championships quickly.

    Not only is this affecting quads people for some reason are more scared of, but also standard heli or fixed wing that had same capabilities.

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    I'm starting to see it this way. The FAA is making a "rule" not a law, as this ACTUAL LAW prevents them from doing so.
    SEC. 336. SPECIAL RULE FOR MODEL AIRCRAFT.
    (a) In General.--Notwithstanding any other provision of law relating to the incorporation of
    unmanned aircraft systems into Federal Aviation Administration plans and policies, including
    this subtitle, the Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration may not promulgate any
    rule or regulation regarding a model aircraft, or an aircraft being developed as a model aircraft,
    if--
    (1) the aircraft is flown strictly for hobby or recreational use;
    (2) the aircraft is operated in accordance with a community-based set of safety guidelines and
    within the programming of a nationwide community-based organization;
    (3) the aircraft is limited to not more than 55 pounds unless otherwise certified through a design,
    construction, inspection, flight test, and operational safety program administered by a
    community-based organization;
    (4) the aircraft is operated in a manner that does not interfere with and gives way to any manned
    aircraft; and
    (5) when flown within 5 miles of an airport, the operator of the aircraft provides the airport
    operator and the airport air traffic control tower (when an air traffic facility is located at the
    airport) with prior notice of the operation (model aircraft operators flying from a permanent
    location within 5 miles of an airport should establish a mutually-agreed upon operating
    procedure with the airport operator and the airport air traffic control tower (when an air traffic
    facility is located at the airport)).
    (b) Statutory Construction.--Nothing in this section shall be construed to limit the authority of
    the Administrator to pursue enforcement action against persons operating model aircraft who
    endanger the safety of the national airspace system.
    (c) Model Aircraft Defined.--In this section, the term ``model aircraft'' means an unmanned
    aircraft that is--
    (1) capable of sustained flight in the atmosphere;
    (2) flown within visual line of sight of the person operating the aircraft; and
    (3) flown for hobby or recreational purposes.
    Since they legally aren't allowed to make a law to regulate a UAS, they create a "rule" to register a drone (or the pilot).

    Now this where my foil hat comes in. As soon as you go to their website and register, you are prompted to agree to the "rules". This puts you in a civilly binding contract that gives them the leverage they need to fine you.

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    Drones doing this are what we should be worried about: http://www.popularmechanics.com/mili...ter-from-hell/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    Drones doing this are what we should be worried about: http://www.popularmechanics.com/mili...ter-from-hell/
    A legitimate concern for sure. But how will registration help? Kind of like gun control... The person who would do that isn't going to register his aircraft nor is he going to be stopped by 1s and 0s in a database.

    I guess when you knowingly let terrorists into the country you have to appear to be doing something.

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    If the rednecks can do this in an afternoon with duct tape, how long before someone with bad intentions catches on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    Drones doing this are what we should be worried about: http://www.popularmechanics.com/mili...ter-from-hell/
    Looks like we need to start sending soldiers to the skeet range.

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