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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    The interesting thing here is that our current POTUS's entire life from Highschool to this now has been financed by the House of Saud ... this is why he all but fellated the King of Saud when he met him ... but he is also as you said "tucked in bed nicely with Iran" ... so he's going to be torn here and who knows how he'll side in the end
    He won't take sides. He'll drag his feet, ride the fence, and hem-haw around to avoid the whole thing. Besides, shouldn't he be focused on the bigger picture? You know, stripping his constituents of their constitutional rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray1970 View Post
    He won't take sides. He'll drag his feet, ride the fence, and hem-haw around to avoid the whole thing. Besides, shouldn't he be focused on the bigger picture? You know, stripping his constituents of their constitutional rights.
    Well that and Global warming ... you're right ... he's only got a year left and with it he'll dither (and focus on his domestic agenda of tyranny).
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    Isn't it strange how we have the Great Uniter/Peace Prize President and the whole world is in flames?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    Isn't it strange how we have the Great Uniter/Peace Prize President and the whole world is in flames?
    Not strange at all, considering he got the award 9 months into his presidency and hadn't accomplished a damn thing. That's the MO with the guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    Not strange at all, considering he got the award 9 months into his presidency and hadn't accomplished a damn thing. That's the MO with the guy.
    Nailed it.
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    More proxy asymmetrical warfare using separate groups to injure the other side. The Saudi's will focus in economic warfare against the Mullahs and the Mullahs will continue trying to destabilize the Saudi royal family by bringing arab spring to the Kingdom.

    I wouldn't be surprised if we never hear about the Israeli's working with the Saudi's to neutralize Iran's nuclear program. I have no hope that there will be any official assistance provided to any of our allies in the region. At least not till late January 2017.

    Unlike the Hermit Kingdom, which is essentially the yappy but useful little dog of the the regime in Beijing, Tehran and Riyadh have enough independence to start and stop their own trouble making whenever they want to. For the foreseeable future, the US will continue to support the House of Saud, IMO.
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    Saudi allies scale down ties to Iran amid growing tensions
    TEHRAN, Iran — Allies of Saudi Arabia followed the kingdom's lead and on Monday began scaling down their diplomatic ties to Iran in the wake of the ransacking of Saudi diplomatic missions in the Islamic Republic, violence that was sparked by the Saudis' execution of a prominent Shiite cleric.

    The tiny island kingdom of Bahrain announced it would sever its ties completely from Iran, as Saudi Arabia did late on Sunday.

    Within hours, the United Arab Emirates announced it would downgrade its own diplomatic ties to Tehran, bringing them down to the level of the charge d'affaires and would from now on focus entirely on the business relationships between the two countries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    Not strange at all, considering he got the award 9 months into his presidency and hadn't accomplished a damn thing. That's the MO with the guy.
    I think it's worse than incompetency. I think this is the agenda, IMHO.

    ME, Asia, and Europe all directly destabilized by actions this administration has taken. Sub-Saharan Africa has been left alone.

    You don't get these results in seven years unless you are trying. 70+ years of order and influence (in some places) has been erased in 1/10th of the time. China thinks they own Asia. Iran thinks they have been given the ME (nuke deal). An emerging Caliphate believes it will own Western Europe. Putin has demonstrated he can control Eastern Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    I think it's worse than incompetency. I think this is the agenda, IMHO.

    ME, Asia, and Europe all directly destabilized by actions this administration has taken. Sub-Saharan Africa has been left alone.

    You don't get these results in seven years unless you are trying. 70+ years of order and influence (in some places) has been erased in 1/10th of the time. China thinks they own Asia. Iran thinks they have been given the ME (nuke deal). An emerging Caliphate believes it will own Western Europe. Putin has demonstrated he can control Eastern Europe.

    When did Maine get involved in all this?
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