Militia takes over Malheur National Wildlife Refuge headquarters TAKE 2

[fitz19d]

Heres a link that has video. http://www.policeone.com/officer-sho...g-traffic-stop

As far as almost hitting the officer that article says, kinda officers fault for leaping in front of the truck basically. Looks like officer behind him might have been first to shoot. He as article says soon after truck was reaching into his pocket repeatedly. They state he did have a handgun in there. Maybe he was doing something dumb like trying to toss it down. Who knows but was a bad move. That he reached so many times makes me almost wonder if he was trying to provoke being shot.

[hollohas]

The video makes it pretty clear why they shot him. Can't be reaching into your jacket when everyone believes you're armed to the teeth.

I found it peculiar that the video was cut at the exact point in the situation the one witness said was when the police fired on the stopped white truck just prior to it taking off.

????

EDIT: I watched a version longer than what they showed in the press conference, it did not cut out. Not sure what happened there. But during the press conference they said one man exited the stopped truck and surrendered before it took off, saying "you can't see it because of the trees." However, watching the longer video 3 times now, it sure doesn't look like anyone exited that truck. Dunno... What am I missing?

[Irving]

As far as almost hitting the officer that article says, kinda officers fault for leaping in front of the truck basically.

In my opinion, there is no kind of at all. What a stupid move. That officer is lucky he is alive at all.

[Jamnanc]

Way too far removed to know for sure, but it looked like his gun stuck in his pocket to me. If I was a cop in that situation with people I know or have a very strong suspicion are armed and they are wrestling something from their pocket, I'm shooting.

[HoneyBadger]

Interesting that they had at least one agent in the woods off the side of the road... And then either he, or the agents in the road, were shooting at each other.. What are the rules of gun safety??? BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT'S BEHIND IT... One agent is lucky he didn't get run over, the rest are all lucky they didn't shoot each other.

Obviously a set up. Bad move for the militia folks, possibly a bad more for the Feds. We'll see.

[Irving]

Way too far removed to know for sure, but it looked like his gun stuck in his pocket to me. If I was a cop in that situation with people I know or have a very strong suspicion are armed and they are wrestling something from their pocket, I'm shooting.

Agreed.

[bryjcom]

A lot of the Bundy sympathizers are saying that he was being shot at and he was grabbing gunshot wounds.. I guess its possible......

Initially though it looks like he's grabbing for something and he's hesitating for the right moment. Won't know unless we hear audio and probably a better video.

[Gman]

The officer that jumped in front of the truck made a genius move.

It's nice to know that US citizens are subject to similar government surveillance to those we're openly at war with. Were there any Hellfire missiles on that helicopter/drone or would that have crossed some kind of line?

Road block at a turn in the road, shooter in the trees...total setup. Looks like the deceased wasn't even facing the shooter that took him down. Was he reaching for his pockets, or lifting his coat to show he was unarmed? Some audio to go with the video would certainly help. Can't tell when the shooting started compared to the deceased's actions/reactions.

[davsel]

Flash bangs and shots fired at the truck after Finicum was down?

[jslo]

"Grabbing at gun shot wounds and reaching/grabbing with left hand, but is right handed". Those are most of the comments I'm seeing.