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    Quote Originally Posted by O2HeN2 View Post
    Since you're not travelling through and/or you may be staying at least a night within California, FOPA may not protect you (not sure, anyone have better information?)

    If FOPA does not protect you, then California's "approved firearm" list might kick in. Again, not sure.

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    The CA approved handgun list only applies to sales of new guns. It has no bearing on what people previously owned.
    The "k" is silent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fromk View Post
    The CA approved handgun list only applies to sales of new guns. It has no bearing on what people previously owned.
    Yup, this is why off roster guns go for a premium on the private party market.

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    No way!

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    Surely you aren't advocating breaking any laws on this forum?

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    And he is free to do so, what do I know?

    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post

    Being from out of state. Might as well have your attorney with you. You must have not read the stories from NY & NJ of peopel stopped and being Honest , said that had a firearm. Felony charges, court hearings, unknown expenses for attorneys. Potential jail time.

    CA is not different when it comes to a concealed weapon. ESPECIALLY from some one out of state.

    Unless you're covering his legal fees. i suggest the OP ignore your helpful info.




    This is all one needs to know
    https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/travel

    CALGUNS has a link AND FAQ for those from OOS.


    Really?? You never hear that oft repeated reply when being interviewed

    YOU'D NEVER THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD HAPPEN HERE

    It does and can happen ANYWHERE, ANY TIME, ANY PLACE . It's a matter of being prepared for anything. Then not be, when it's too late.

    That way of thinking means one doesn't need a seat belt, fire extinguisher, spare tire, roadside assistance, Or even a phone to call 911

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    Hold on. I am not advocating being unarmed. If you want to bring long guns and a patrol load out go right ahead. Please don't bin me in with the libtards who rant about needs and crap, or how no bad things ever happen.

    What I am trying to communicate, and failing at, is that most parts of even So Cal are not bad enough where a rifle is needed. The best way to stay safe is situational awereness and avoiding certain areas. A handgun will solve 99% of the problems, and the 1% where a rifle is needed it will not be enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erni View Post
    Hold on. I am not advocating being unarmed. If you want to bring long guns and a patrol load out go right ahead. Please don't bin me in with the libtards who rant about needs and crap, or how no bad things ever happen.

    What I am trying to communicate, and failing at, is that most parts of even So Cal are not bad enough where a rifle is needed. The best way to stay safe is situational awereness and avoiding certain areas. A handgun will solve 99% of the problems, and the 1% where a rifle is needed it will not be enough.
    Your mindset is flawed. I believe it's safe to say, anywhere that you need a handgun, you will likely wish you had a rifle or shotgun. The only reason most people don't carry a rifle or shotgun, is because it's not practical. The whole situational awareness thing and avoiding certain areas, I certainly agree with.

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    What part of SoCal? Which route are you taking?

    If you have a lockable Glove Box and lockable center console, you can split the gun and mags between them, as long as they are separate. No ammo in or around the locked gun.


    Kazoo's advice is spot-on.

    Also, it never hurts to be a "good little citizen" and avoid any trouble. Situational Awareness is ALWAYS the most important thing, regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukeeshaker View Post
    Keep it on you and keep your mouth shut and who will know unless you need it. At that point stay alive, then deal with the rules after.
    It is hard to reply to this comment, but let me try.

    There are several reasons that this is just not even close to good advice.

    1) I am going with a FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. Why would he risk his 20+ year career on me breaking the law? He wouldn't, and he is actually the one who brought this up. He won't even bring his AR since it is not CA complaint.

    2) Believe it or not, there are worse things than being shot dead. In my mind, being a felon, or in jail, or draining my families savings/estate does no good to them. In fact, they would be way worse off. Personally, I would not want to be in a Federal "pound it up your ass" prison if anything went down. I would rather be dead. I had the same philosophy in the sandbox, they were going to have to kill me...

    3) 99% of forums like this one have law abiding citizens that follow the rules and are champions for our cause. However, there is that 1% of asshats that scream "I am a law abiding citizen, DON'T TREAD ON ME!" BS and then in the next thread post up "then deal with the rules after" or "I carry on my kids public school property, it is my right...screw them..", or (I love this one) "it is better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6..." At that point, are you really a law abiding citizen? No.

    4) Having out of state plates is always a target. Now having the "Colorado" plates just screams out Bob Marley featuring Cheech & Chong is in this truck. Do we have a good chance of being pulled over? I give it a 10%, but I am not going to risk it for going to the middle of nowhere in the desert. Not a huge threat, but you never know. I have been pulled over for tinted windows, even with out of state plates in CA. It was a BS thing to pull us over, but it still got us on the side of the road with their nose all up in our business. My truck has dark, but legal tint.

    If I was a moderator, and due to some of your prior discussions, would get a nice vacation. In reality, you advised me to break the law, which this site is totally against.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColoradoTJ View Post
    It is hard to reply to this comment, but let me try.

    There are several reasons that this is just not even close to good advice.

    1) I am going with a FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. Why would he risk his 20+ year career on me breaking the law? He wouldn't, and he is actually the one who brought this up. He won't even bring his AR since it is not CA complaint.

    2) Believe it or not, there are worse things than being shot dead. In my mind, being a felon, or in jail, or draining my families savings/estate does no good to them. In fact, they would be way worse off. Personally, I would not want to be in a Federal "pound it up your ass" prison if anything went down. I would rather be dead. I had the same philosophy in the sandbox, they were going to have to kill me...

    3) 99% of forums like this one have law abiding citizens that follow the rules and are champions for our cause. However, there is that 1% of asshats that scream "I am a law abiding citizen, DON'T TREAD ON ME!" BS and then in the next thread post up "then deal with the rules after" or "I carry on my kids public school property, it is my right...screw them..", or (I love this one) "it is better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6..." At that point, are you really a law abiding citizen? No.

    4) Having out of state plates is always a target. Now having the "Colorado" plates just screams out Bob Marley featuring Cheech & Chong is in this truck. Do we have a good chance of being pulled over? I give it a 10%, but I am not going to risk it for going to the middle of nowhere in the desert. Not a huge threat, but you never know. I have been pulled over for tinted windows, even with out of state plates in CA. It was a BS thing to pull us over, but it still got us on the side of the road with their nose all up in our business. My truck has dark, but legal tint.

    If I was a moderator, and due to some of your prior discussions, would get a nice vacation. In reality, you advised me to break the law, which this site is totally against.
    Excellent post, especially the last sentence. At the end of the day, you are traveling with someone that can legally carry, you are doing much better than the majority of folks traveling to CA.

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