Justice Scalia dead

[wctriumph]

RIP Justice Scalia, may God speed.

Do any of you believe or, better question, would any of you actually register or turn in your firearms if a "new" supreme court upheld an Australian or British type scheme? Would you? I will not, under any circumstances, do so.

I am old enough to KNOW what the Constitution says and what it means and any more laws passed that infringe on our rights will be ignored and I believe that, at least within my remaining life span, that any LEO would not even try to enforce any laws like that. Do any of you think that the "Militia" movement would not become larger than ever before?

When the nomination of the new justice candidate is made we must absolutely deluge the senate with our disdain for that candidate. If the senate does actually ask their questions, the meaning of the second amendment is a supremely qualifying question that must be considered and past opinions must be taken into account on the second amendment issue.



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[Irving]

This is what is most disturbing. Hard core liberals truly do wish harm on conservatives. They don't want to live and let live, they want us eliminated. Theu want us dead. Just like when they were wishing the feds would just go in and kill the folks at the wildlife refuge to end it.

Liberals aren't just the enemies of freedom politically, they truly are our enemies in the truest definition of the word.

This goes on both sides of the aisle. We see it here every single day. I don't want to belabor that point though.

[Bailey Guns]

This is the period in time when we need a man like Hugo Black. A liberal democrat party senator who became an originalist Supreme Court Justice very similar in ideology to Scalia and truly believed in the original meaning and original interpretation of the Constitution. Obama would get his liberal, we would get another originalist justice.

[Irving]

Original hippies from the 60's and 70's tend to be very libertarian and nearly conservative by today's standards. However, I believe that population is quickly dwindling.

[Bailey Guns]

^^ Like Hillary Clinton?

[BPTactical]

RIP Justice Scalia, may God speed.

Do any of you believe or, better question, would any of you actually register or turn in your firearms if a "new" supreme court upheld an Australian or British type scheme? Would you? I will not, under any circumstances, do so.

I am old enough to KNOW what the Constitution says and what it means and any more laws passed that infringe on our rights will be ignored and I believe that, at least within my remaining life span, that any LEO would not even try to enforce any laws like that.

As far as your first paragraph- a "Law" such as you suggest would clearly and plainly NOT be constitutional and therefore wholly invalid.
One is not bound to abide by unconstitutional and invalid law.

As far as the second point quoted, of course there are LE that would enforce unconstitutional and invalid laws.
Their pensions and paychecks are far more important than your rights.

[Skip]

This goes on both sides of the aisle. We see it here every single day. I don't want to belabor that point though.

I have to disagree. Most Conservatives take a "live and let live" approach. If it doesn't effect me, I don't care even when someone else demands I do. The reason Liberals catch hell here is because they insist on reaching into our lives and deciding how we can live. They threaten on a nearly daily basis to make us criminals and ruin our lives for being gun owners. Do we really do the same?

I can also tolerate an opinion with which I don't agree. Even be friendly and amicable with the other party. A Liberal cannot tolerate disagreement even when the point changes through time and they must "get in their faces" at all costs.

Radical transformation means something. It means you have to change even both your will and the law say you don't shouldn't have to. Imagine Conservatives imposing a radical transformation on Liberals? What would that even look like? Imagine abortion rights treated the same way as gun rights (with the same consequences for breaking the law). A balanced budget and tax reform (flat/fair) even. End to welfare without work. Affirmation Action would be over and people would be treated based on who they rather than skin color. Closed borders. Etc, etc, etc...

When we see some of this ^ I'll let you say it goes the same on both sides.

[Alpha2]

A justice of the peace declared Scalia died of natural causes, without ever seeing the body, and declined an autopsy.
Nope, nuthin' to see here!

Wow. Just wow.

[Martinjmpr]

This is diverging from the thread topic, but:

Mark my words: You will NEVER see any kind of confiscation scheme, ever. They know it, we know it. A bunch of bubba's want to act tough with "from my cold dead hands" and "Molon Labe" but in reality, peoples imagination in that direction is no more productive and realistic than bronies thinking about prancing around with rainbow dash. (If I got that correct). Flat out, never going to happen. People rising from the dead and eating brains, defying all laws of physics and organic science is more likely to happen first.

I have to agree. What people don't realize about England and Australia is that by the time their firearms confiscation laws went into effect, the % of people who owned guns was already miniscule. If you can get the legal gun owners to down below about 5 - 10 % (and I think 10% would be difficult) then you can pass whatever laws you want restricting guns but as long as anywhere between 35 - 50% of Americans own guns ore belong to families of gun owners (while not necessarily being gun owners themselves) there's no confiscation scheme that has a chance in hell of being implemented.

It's more likely that liberals who want to eventually ban guns will simply try and put more and more roadblocks in front of gun ownership because over time this will cause gun ownership to diminish incrementally: Background checks requirements, restrictions on who you can transfer to and what you can transfer, etc. But it will take decades if not a couple of centuries to diminish gun ownership to the point where confiscation is an option.

[Irving]

^^ Like Hillary Clinton?

I think she lost her morals more and more with each additional dollar made.