Trump carries

[Joe_K]

The only way to win a presidential election, is to lie your ass off.

So why doesn't somebody run for president that is truly principaled, a true American patriot, would appoint strong conservatives to the Supreme Court, would eliminate 75% of the .gov, and would sign every piece of pro-liberty legislation that came across his or her desk.

All they have to do is pander to idiots, then once elected, make the switch. Think Trojan horse. Use Salinskys playback on them.
We need a closet Patriot, an electable by everyone canidate.

[KestrelBike]

The only way to win a presidential election, is to lie your ass off.

So why doesn't somebody run for president that is truly principaled, a true American patriot, would appoint strong conservatives to the Supreme Court, would eliminate 75% of the .gov, and would sign every piece of pro-liberty legislation that came across his or her desk.

All they have to do is pander to idiots, then once elected, make the switch. Think Trojan horse. Use Salinskys playback on them.
We need a closet Patriot, an electable by everyone canidate.

At this point, I don't think it would even matter if you got someone like that miraculously elected because Congress is The Establishment by its very nature. Back to electability: Ron Paul was extremely principled in my opinion, but he had zero chance because A) people don't believe his policies would stand a snowball's chance in hell against the vested interests (the establishment juggernaut consisting of 95% of the left and right) and in that they were correct, B) the media wouldn't give him the time of day (skip to 1:19 and stop when it gets to that idiot piers morgan at 2:37) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMO7YG3Ul5g

So, in my opinion, we had the candidate you were speaking of, but he was clearly and decisively defeated and there will never be a success like that. Ted Cruz, in my opinion, is the closest thing to it and I don't think that's going to happen and he's doing amazing/awesome, far more than I ever thought he would. In fact, you can see over the past 4 years how much he's had to tone down his message and kind of blur the line between establishment and how I (perhaps naively) think he really is.