Trump carries

[RblDiver]

Is all of that concrete hurt worth the raspberry you give to the establishment that already has all the money and power they amicably trade back and forth with the other side of the same coin, the dems? The GOP might not hold up to the exact standards you want them to, but by not voting for them, you vote *by default* for the dems who WILL do their damnedest to make you live how THEY want you to live. Of zero consequence besides your conscience (and again, totally up to you, but don't pretend you're doing the better tangible good) is your absent vote. Tell me again how Romney rues the day he couldn't get you to come out and vote for him, or how bad Cantor, Boehner, or Ryan are doing after they lost, quit, or just aren't your favorite. People like obummer, biden, and hillary would send you a thank you card for your actions if they had your address.

Sometimes, a forest fire is necessary to burn things to the ground so you can rebuild. Sometimes, you need to address the plank in your eye first. If other shit happens, that sucks, but your integrity is the only thing you have that others can't take away from you.

[KestrelBike]

Sometimes, a forest fire is necessary to burn things to the ground so you can rebuild. Sometimes, you need to address the plank in your eye first. If other shit happens, that sucks, but your integrity is the only thing you have that others can't take away from you.

Understood, but we're no where near that... Yet.

[Bailey Guns]

Sometimes, a forest fire is necessary to burn things to the ground so you can rebuild.

Yeah...ever heard of China, the USSR, Viet Nam, Cambodia? They had "forest fires" there and look what they rebuilt. What makes you think the "rebuilding" is going to look like you imagine it?

[68Charger]

Yeah...ever heard of China, the USSR, Viet Nam, Cambodia? They had "forest fires" there and look what they rebuilt. What makes you think the "rebuilding" is going to look like you imagine it?

With popular opinion right now, the government would be rebuilt as the USSA and we would all be declared dissidents overnight

[roberth]

With popular opinion right now, the government would be rebuilt as the USSA and we would all be declared dissidents overnight

Alot of us are already terrorists in the eyes of the government. We own guns, we discuss the constitution, liberty, independence, economics, capitalism, right-wing politics, some might be classified as preppers, I could go on.

[68Charger]

Alot of us are already terrorists in the eyes of the government. We own guns, we discuss the constitution, liberty, independence, economics, capitalism, right-wing politics, some might be classified as preppers, I could go on.

True, but it's still not as bad as being an enemy of the state where you can be jailed or worse just for not agreeing with the state

[roberth]

True, but it's still not as bad as being an enemy of the state where you can be jailed or worse just for not agreeing with the state

Agreed.