BassPro Got Robbed

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That's what I figured most did. I thought they did this also

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There's no reason not to with wage paid employees and plenty of time in the AM to set up shop. I know mom/pops get lazy but these corporate joints need to have controls in place.

I'd like to know more details, but the "journalists" can't get past the words ASSAULT WEAPONS!!!

Wathched the vid, MSR demonizing at its best: Jim Hooley reports from the scene: " AR-15's the assault style rifles, very high power tactical rifles- the AR-15's" ...

Yup. And if any of these guns are used in crimes it will be front page news. No mention of how background checks don't work. No contrast with the other ways criminals have gotten guns (a certain Fed agency).

[Doc45]

I've been in the security room there. I've seen fewer cameras at .gov installations! I'm sure the cops have lots of footage to get through-most of the cameras can't be easily reached so vid won't be a problem. If it gets solved I'd agree with a high probability of inside help.

[JohnnyEgo]

I used to work at a Mom & Pop many years ago. After having someone drive a truck through our storefront twice, once after we installed reinforced concrete bollards, we started locking all the guns up in safes every night, and putting them back out every day. Took two guys about 30 minutes to take them out or put them up. So perhaps $5-7K a year in added labor cost, but certainly cheaper then replacing storefront windows, paying increased insurance premiums, and the fear associated with putting illegal guns on the street. Our unbelievably tight-fisted owner was willing to pay it.

[SA Friday]

Lots of things one can do for security. Alarms, cameras, locating the firearms at the furthest location from the door... chains, cables, $10 of thousands of dollars or safes, locking gun racks, mylar and grates on all windows an doors, overnight security guards, big fucking rotties, laser beams on the trout in the tanks...

Cals Armory was a second story fucking fortress with a man trap at the front and he got strong armed robbed (I know once for sure, it might have been twice). Dave's Guns got rammed by a stolen station wagon in the back.

Seriously, lots of judgy "common sense" security specialists posting on this thread. Their liability, their security system expenses. I bet I could kick in the front door or most of the poster's in this thread because your are too lazy to change the 3/4" screws on the kick plates and hinges to 3" screws. I also bet my 12 year old could rake open your $30 non-security pin deadbolt front door lock too. Those are your liability, your security system expenses.

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I used to work at a Mom & Pop many years ago. After having someone drive a truck through our storefront twice, once after we installed reinforced concrete bollards, we started locking all the guns up in safes every night, and putting them back out every day. Took two guys about 30 minutes to take them out or put them up. So perhaps $5-7K a year in added labor cost, but certainly cheaper then replacing storefront windows, paying increased insurance premiums, and the fear associated with putting illegal guns on the street. Our unbelievably tight-fisted owner was willing to pay it.

It just makes sense. Add in whatever legal liability can come and it's a slam dunk.

I would find a way to work it in with working hours to avoid the cost. Inventory/check-in as part of closing while transfers are finalized. Check out in the morning as soon as you open. If someone wants to see/buy a gun at open, just pull it first.

Still want to know more about this... Hopefully they guns can be recovered.

[asmo]

The reason they don't put firearms in safes at night and take them back out during the day is simple: Employees do more damage to the firearms taking them in and out each day - and the store has insurance for robberies not for daily handling. Further, people typically protect the outside and never protect the inside (hard and crunchy on the outside - soft and gooey on the inside). Same everywhere.

This has been the rule at multiple LGS I have worked at/with.

[ChunkyMonkey]

Lots of things one can do for security. Alarms, cameras, locating the firearms at the furthest location from the door... chains, cables, $10 of thousands of dollars or safes, locking gun racks, mylar and grates on all windows an doors, overnight security guards, big fucking rotties, laser beams on the trout in the tanks...

Cals Armory was a second story fucking fortress with a man trap at the front and he got strong armed robbed (I know once for sure, it might have been twice). Dave's Guns got rammed by a stolen station wagon in the back.

Seriously, lots of judgy "common sense" security specialists posting on this thread. Their liability, their security system expenses. I bet I could kick in the front door or most of the poster's in this thread because your are too lazy to change the 3/4" screws on the kick plates and hinges to 3" screws. I also bet my 12 year old could rake open your $30 non-security pin deadbolt front door lock too. Those are your liability, your security system expenses.

^^^ This!!

[HoneyBadger]

If it was an inside job, I assume the insider would know about the security measures in place, and disable cameras, right?

I grew up close to a gun store in Michigan that was built in an old (probably 100+yr old) bank building. The area that had the guns was the actual vault for the bank... Back when banks actually had the cash of all their customers on site. At night, they just closed the 1ft thick vault door and time sealed it for the night. I don't know how good that door would hold up against modern tactics, but it sure as heck wasn't going to get rammed or pried open. Unfortunately, most of their traffic was people who wanted to check out the vault and not buy anything, and they went out of business after just a few years open. I swung past there last summer and it was an uppity clothing store and the vault was just another part of their floor space. The sweet vault door was basically hidden behind some clothing racks.

At any rate, building a 15x30' vault as the gun showroom might be cheaper than some of the other security measures people would undertake.

[ChunkyMonkey]

If it was an inside job, I assume the insider would know about the security measures in place, and disable cameras, right?

I grew up close to a gun store in Michigan that was built in an old (probably 100+yr old) bank building. The area that had the guns was the actual vault for the bank... Back when banks actually had the cash of all their customers on site. At night, they just closed the 1ft thick vault door and time sealed it for the night. I don't know how good that door would hold up against modern tactics, but it sure as heck wasn't going to get rammed or pried open. Unfortunately, most of their traffic was people who wanted to check out the vault and not buy anything, and they went out of business after just a few years open. I swung past there last summer and it was an uppity clothing store and the vault was just another part of their floor space. The sweet vault door was basically hidden behind some clothing racks.

At any rate, building a 15x30' vault as the gun showroom might be cheaper than some of the other security measures people would undertake.

Also keep in mind, they dont do inventory on daily or weekly basis. What's stopping anyone from letting one or two firearms walk out the door w/ his/her accomplice, and now that inventory time coming up, lets break a window, set off the alarm. #2, bad inventory w/ few missing items are not that uncommon. Someone broke a window, then a snap count produced few missing items.

[HoneyBadger]

Also keep in mind, they dont do inventory on daily or weekly basis. What's stopping anyone from letting one or two firearms walk out the door w/ his/her accomplice, and now that inventory time coming up, lets break a window, set off the alarm. #2, bad inventory w/ few missing items are not that uncommon. Someone broke a window, then a snap count produced few missing items.

That's a crappy scenario. Only way to protect against that is to hire the right people.... Which, as I'm sure you know, is easier said than done.