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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    ISIS is now owning the shooting. Probably bullshit...just trying to get some mileage outta the fact a member of the religion of peace did the shooting. But, who knows?
    Well, the reports are that the gunman called 911 prior to the shooting and pledged allegiance to ISIS. So, while I doubt they had direct control over sending this guy, the connection IS there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by henpecked View Post
    I’m not a bar hound so I’m just guessing. (I’m also guessing plenty here can correct me.)
    In a normal honky tonk type straight bar situation at 2AM where say there are, say, 30 people…and a guy pulls out a rifle…is it safe to assume that at least 15 pistols would be pointed back at him?

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    Kind of disheartening to see all the whining about the Democrats in this thread. Neither the Democratic party, nor the media, or even liberals in general committed this crime or allowed it to happen in anyway. Night clubs have been target rich environments with pat downs for decades, and they always will be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RblDiver View Post
    Well, the reports are that the gunman called 911 prior to the shooting and pledged allegiance to ISIS. So, while I doubt they had direct control over sending this guy, the connection IS there.
    No doubt there's a connection. But I don't think ISIS directly recruited this guy to do the shooting. I think he's just a radical douche, pledged his allegiance to the other radical douches, did the shooting, and now ISIS is claiming it. Of course that's just pure speculation on my part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Kind of disheartening to see all the whining about the Democrats in this thread. Neither the Democratic party, nor the media, or even liberals in general committed this crime or allowed it to happen in anyway. Night clubs have been target rich environments with pat downs for decades, and they always will be.
    Truth. I went on a pub crawl last night here in Ft. Collins after a birthday dinner for my daughter and there were three bars that would not let me carry my umbrella inside. We did not go into those particular bars and clubs. Just about every "security" person at the door carding people were of college student age and would not have been able to stop anyone from doing evil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    No doubt there's a connection. But I don't think ISIS directly recruited this guy to do the shooting. I think he's just a radical douche, pledged his allegiance to the other radical douches, did the shooting, and now ISIS is claiming it. Of course that's just pure speculation on my part.
    If I understand correctly, there are lots of small sects of people that pledge "allegiance" to ISIS or Boko Harram (sp?), then do things locally to get noticed. Then when they do get noticed, the larger groups claim the event.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman View Post
    My wife has had a rainbow P238 for a couple of years.

    Right off the MSN Homepage is a picture of an AR-15 with the column titled: The gun used in the Orlando shooting is becoming mass shooters’ weapon of choice
    Most common firearms used in the country are used in crimes. Hmm, never saw this coming.
    I got nothing against the rainbow Sigs. At least it's still a Sig.

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    Watch RGR & SWHC go through the roof tomorrow.

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    Looks like another man was detained in CA with some bad intent...

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/12...port-says.html

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    I see a bunch of chatter about possibly two more shooters? I dont have cable so i am just watching social media. Any confirmation on the weapons used?

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