I was a Cruz guy from the beginning...

[davsel]

Chris Christie sums it up:

[StagLefty]

I think Cruz pretty much ended his Republican career last night !

[Gman]

[MarkCO]

I was wrong. Screw that guy, he is not helping and his bitterness will lead to Clinton winning. I was hoping he would get on board but I think his political future just got hit by a train.

Right there with you. FWIW, none of the women in my life liked him, and they could not tell me why. Guess they were right after all.

[sniper7]

I was just in Philadelphia and they had a road to the whitehouse exhibit at the constitution center.

while looking around I had never even really heard about who the losing candidates let alone 3rd party candidates that got a relatively large percentage of the vote. But what you do remember and what really matters is who was elected and that person has 4 years (typically) to be CIC.

So for those wanting to vote your conscience, just remember that it won't matter and you are realistically helping Hillary. We can only hope we have people smart enough to realize this, plug their nose when they vote trump and hope the other side is stupid enough to vote for a third party helping surge trump to victory.

[MarkCO]

The one thing Democrats seem to understand better than all the other groups is how to split and divide as a tactic to retain power. Cruz hurt the things he claims to love...Truth and the Rule of Law (Constitution) yesterday. The polls say HRC is in the lead and that the House and Senate are leaning Republican. The writing is on the wall and it is terrifying. I am absolutely sick of party politics and I am confidant that the founding fathers would not have been pleased at all with the political landscape, nor where America sits today.

[asmo]

If you love our country and love your children as much as I know that you do, stand and speak and vote your conscience. Vote for candidates up and down the ticket who you trust to defend our freedom and to be faithful to the Constitution.

I don't see the issue. He was clearly telling people to vote for Gary Johnson.

[asmo]

while looking around I had never even really heard about who the losing candidates let alone 3rd party candidates that got a relatively large percentage of the vote. But what you do remember and what really matters is who was elected and that person has 4 years (typically) to be CIC.

Then your history is fuzzy.

So for those wanting to vote your conscience, just remember that it won't matter and you are realistically helping Hillary. We can only hope we have people smart enough to realize this, plug their nose when they vote trump and hope the other side is stupid enough to vote for a third party helping surge trump to victory.

All the Dems are saying a vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Trump. All the Trump people are saying a vote for Johnson is a vote for Hillary. Utter nonsense. While I have no belief that Johnson will will the election, I do believe if we can get him above the 15% mark there is a chance in 4 years. If I vote for either Hillary or Donald it will be the exact same, if not worse, 4 years from now.

[CS1983]

Guess his dad's prophesying and general evangelical fundie prot schtick isn't holding up to reality (because it's not in conformity with said reality). The man comes from a nut tree and didn't fall far from the thing...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...e-messiah.html

Aside from the blatantly unscriptural aspects of Cruz's beliefs, which I assume he shares with his father (who is most definitely a nut), his views are REALLY EFFING DANGEROUS for anyone who would have power over the US military, etc. The last thing I want is someone who is basically gonna be the Focus on the Family version of Ahmadinejad or similar, thinking they definitely have a role in the End Times and they should start pushing buttons and whatever else of which they find themselves convinced.

[Zundfolge]

I'll say this about voting one's conscience:

As one prepares to do so, realize that there are just 2 viable candidates who legitimately have a chance of winning this election, Hillary or Trump. There is no 3rd party candidate with any chance of winning. Period.

Well yes and no.

There isn't one election for president, there's 51.

For those of us that live in Colorado, this is a 50/50 state so it's vitally important that we come together here behind Trump and defeat Hillary.

But for those in states like California or Massachusetts where there will never be enough Republican votes to win the state, you might as well lodge a "protest vote" for some third party loser or write in Alfred E Newman or not vote at all (just make sure you vote in all the down ballot races) ... just realize that nobody in the two major parties will pay attention or give a shit so your "protest" will go unheard, but if it makes you feel better than go for it.

While I have no belief that Johnson will will the election, I do believe if we can get him above the 15% mark there is a chance in 4 years. If I vote for either Hillary or Donald it will be the exact same, if not worse, 4 years from now.

This is foolishness. The republic and the constitution will survive Donald. If he's elected it'll not likely "save America" (let alone make it great again), but it will give us time to regroup and come back stronger. But if Hillary wins, there will be no more solutions left "within the system" because the system will become completely and utterly corrupted and the Constitution dead the instant she replaces Scalia (she's already said that Citizens United and Heller are going to be dragged back and reversed, and there goes the 1st and 2nd Amendments, gone forever). At that point the only course of action left to us will be violent revolution. Period. And that's an option we will lose because its going to take a hell of a lot more than III% to win this time and we barely have that.