Close
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 19
  1. #1
    Paper Hunter ClangClang's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    Basalt
    Posts
    189

    Default Does the seller need to be present at FFL for a BGC?

    I would like to buy some guns from someone who is homebound and can't make the trip to the FFL. Is there a specific procedure or just show up with the guns?

    Side question: Let's say NICS is denied/delayed (it never has been for me, I'm just curious) - what happens then?
    Last edited by ClangClang; 07-22-2016 at 18:48.

  2. #2
    Retired Admin
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Aurora
    Posts
    12,932

    Default

    Yes seller has to be present because the FFL needs to log his information from his DL. Now once he has had the gun logged into the FFL's A&D book he can leave but if you don't pass the check then he will have to come back and do a bgc to get his gun back. Now some FFL's allow you to send a copy of your DL with an out of state xfer (gunbroker) but most want a FFL to FFL xfer.

  3. #3
    Paper Hunter ClangClang's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    Basalt
    Posts
    189

    Default

    Any options if the seller can't be present?

  4. #4
    Retired Admin
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Aurora
    Posts
    12,932

    Default

    Not to my knowledge. It's times like these that I really miss the good ol days.

  5. #5
    Retired Admin
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Aurora
    Posts
    12,932

    Default

    Now if I'm wrong guys please correct me but how would the FFL know if it's not stolen goods without a seller present?

  6. #6
    CO-AR's Secret Jedi roberth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Elk City, Oklahoma
    Posts
    10,501

    Default

    Find an FFL who will travel to your homebound person, FFL can do the BGC from anywhere if they have an internet connection.

  7. #7
    Paper Hunter ClangClang's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    Basalt
    Posts
    189

    Default

    Missing the "good old days" indeed. Shit, I moved here from NJ and even there I could buy a rifle from another party, no questions asked. Time to move to WY...

  8. #8
    Retired Admin
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Aurora
    Posts
    12,932

    Default

    Now that's tricky because I always thought that The FFL is tied to the address listed on its license, when ever a FFL does any firearm transaction outside the address listed doesn't it then become a gunshow?

  9. #9
    Machine Gunner Circuits's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Colofornia Springs, CO
    Posts
    2,411

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    Find an FFL who will travel to your homebound person, FFL can do the BGC from anywhere if they have an internet connection.
    NOT LEGAL! Must occur at FFL's licensed premises, or a bona fide gun show.

    Only way for an FFL to conduct the transfer at a bedridden person's home would be for the home to be the site of a bona fide gunshow under the regulations.

    OP, the seller can have a family member transport them, or ship them by common carrier to the FFL for you to do your BGC and pick them up - though as noted, if you failed to pass the BGC, another BGC might end up being required to return them.
    Last edited by Circuits; 07-22-2016 at 20:45.
    "The only real difference between the men and the boys, is the number and size, and cost of their toys."
    NRA Life, GOA Life, SAF Life, CSSA Life, NRA Certified Instructor Circuits' Feedback

  10. #10
    Fleeing Idaho to get IKEA Bailey Guns's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    SE Oklahoma
    Posts
    16,454
    Blog Entries
    4

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Circuits View Post
    OP, the seller can have a family member transport them, or ship them by common carrier to the FFL for you to do your BGC and pick them up - though as noted, if you failed to pass the BGC, another BGC might end up being required to return them.
    If possible, that would be the best way. Seller can "transfer" the guns to an immediate family member, family member can show up at gun store as seller, do check, done deal.

    Isn't there something in the CO law about 72 hours, no check needed? I thought there was. Seller could "loan" guns to buyer long enough to get to FFL with copy of seller's DL?
    Stella - my best girl ever.
    11/04/1994 - 12/23/2010



    Don't wanna get shot by the police?
    "Stop Resisting Arrest!"


Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •