Originally Posted by
foxtrot
The reason it's BS is because the gov't has total control over all forms of communication. Disarmament is here (California) but it isn't door to door, they will never be that stupid.
So... you going to be the next lone wolf "active shooter" resulting in them passing even more truckloads of legislation, or you just going to keep what you have quietly until you get bit with some other criminal violation and you're on the news when they collaterally find "an arsenal of two guns and three boxes of ammunition found at Skip's house".
He's the secret about you that progressives already know. You're not crazy. You, and the majority of firearm owners, are... *gasp* logical. This is a weakness as far as they are concerned.
Step 1) Maintain complete control and interception over communications.
Step 2) Use intelligence assets to "defunct" any movement that could threaten the gov't before it can go anywhere.
Step 3) Thus brings any risk down to "lone wolf" operators. You can't have any organized peaceful or non-peaceful opposition without the gov't being so far up your ass they can count the polyps. Even if you thought yourself secretive.
Step 4) Now there is 0.00% chance of any successful use of the 2A.
Fast forward, after a couple decades under the 7:2 Progressive Court created by HRC.
You, as a logical person, as each piece of incremental legislation passes, will come to realize this. At no point will police ever come at your door. There isn't a scenario where you're holding an American flag screaming "Get some bitches" as the UN surrounds your house. Legislation will pass requiring you to turn in illegal weapons and items incrementally. You probably won't do it. Parts, ammunition, etc. will dry up as the black market flourishes quite expensively but with many high level raids which make the average person apprehensive to make use of it. You will cease to discuss firearms with anyone, and cease to shoot them (including with your own family members) because of the progressives that will rabidly be waiting to report you. Once again, there is never door to door confiscation.
So, nobody comes knocking on your door. However, after a generation, when you pass, your children, or if not them, your children children, will be so indoctrinated they will willingly hand over your baby killing tools of mass destruction.
When do you stand, the lone wolf, and fight it out to the death? They aren't coming to you. So you can either be the terrorist - killing innocent people who have no actual responsibility for the underlying problem, or you can die trying to go after those that do have responsibility with no effect because their security is advanced so far it renders anything you may attempt moot (while still branding yourself a terrorist). Do you waste your life, leave your family struggling to make ends meet surviving your infamy when they limit magazines to 5 rounds? Maybe when they ban 1/2 of all semi autos? Maybe when they ban magazine fed weapons? All pistols? All semi autos? Which line is it, exactly? Because there's never going to be a "ban gunz" bill that suddenly rips your underoos off your bottom.
The "Molon Labe/Cold Dead Hands" is total bullshit, pure and simple, and always will be, in any circumstance. Those that foster their vivid imaginations of a last stand are either hedonistic or don't understand how the progressive engine works.
Your enemy is not stupid.
This has already happened in California. The latest legislation requires turnover of all magazines (no grandfathering) by July 2017 without compensation. Virtually all semi autos are banned now including bullet buttons. If we have a conservative SCOTUS, it will get shot down. If Hillary becomes president, SCOTUS will shift so hard they will validate the CA law however they can, making it precidential. The language of the 2A means nothing once this happens. It doesn't matter if the 2A says the sky is blue, if the progressive SCOTUS calls it green, you have no defense and no position to argue the contrary.
Read the 11th amendment for instance.
Pretty clear what the plain text, “human readable” meaning is:
If you are not a citizen of a given state, you can't sue that state in the US Federal Court. It’s a right to keep States from meddling in other States business, e.g. residents of CO trying to sue WY because CO residents can buy WO magazines. That is what it was intended to protect.
It took no time at all in our countries history for SCOTUS to rewrite the clear meaning of the 11th to mean (their interpretation) : You can never sue any State in the Federal Court system. (sovereign immunity) Even if you are a resident. So your state officials, agencies, employees etc. entertain absolute immunity in the federal system.
So... the eleventh amendment has been construed not to provide a right of the people, but to provide a protection to the state.
So, to, will go the way of the 2A “dodo”, quietly, after HRC gets her SCOTUS nominations.
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