Protesters and YOUR rights , What are they in Colorado ?

[Zundfolge]

Kazoo is correct. If you have reasonable grounds to believe you or yours will be seriously injured or killed, you have the right to use lethal force.

That said, you're in a multi thousand pound metal box, you don't need to mash the gas pedal down to the floor and do a burnout before running them all down while doing donuts. Put the car in gear, lay on the horn and start rolling forward slowly, gradually increasing speed but doing your best to not actually run someone over.

[00tec]

Kazoo is correct. If you have reasonable grounds to believe you or yours will be seriously injured or killed, you have the right to use lethal force.

That said, you're in a multi thousand pound metal box, you don't need to mash the gas pedal down to the floor and do a burnout before running them all down while doing donuts. Put the car in gear, lay on the horn and start rolling forward slowly, gradually increasing speed but doing your best to not actually run someone over.

I agree wit this, BUT if someone removes the glass between me and outside air, the pedal on the right goes down.

[CS1983]

Kazoo is correct. If you have reasonable grounds to believe you or yours will be seriously injured or killed, you have the right to use lethal force.

That said, you're in a multi thousand pound metal box, you don't need to mash the gas pedal down to the floor and do a burnout before running them all down while doing donuts. Put the car in gear, lay on the horn and start rolling forward slowly, gradually increasing speed but doing your best to not actually run someone over.

Problem with this is what happens when, going slow, you don't have the ability to get over the bodies now stuck until your car? If you are going to risk hitting someone, then freaking HIT SOMEONE. The idea of trying to not hit someone is akin to saying "just wound them" or "why not just shoot them in the leg?" etc.

You are using deadly force by DRIVING THROUGH A CROWD, so don't do it stupidly and get stuck w/ a body high centering you and/or allowing the crowd to close in and debrain you.

[Zundfolge]

I agree wit this, BUT if someone removes the glass between me and outside air, the pedal on the right goes down.

Well at that point, I'd draw and fire first. This will get many of the riff-raff to rethink their life choices.

Problem with this is what happens when, going slow, you don't have the ability to get over the bodies now stuck until your car?

This is why I said to try to make sure you're NOT running people over.

Remember your goal is escape, not a higher body count.



Also realize that it doesn't matter how right you are, you're going to get arrested and tried for this one so make sure you have a good lawyer and maybe get one of those personal liability insurance policies now.

[CS1983]

Well at that point, I'd draw and fire first. This will get many of the riff-raff to rethink their life choices.


This is why I said to try to make sure you're NOT running people over.

Remember your goal is escape, not a higher body count.



Also realize that it doesn't matter how right you are, you're going to get arrested and tried for this one so make sure you have a good lawyer and maybe get one of those personal liability insurance policies now.

The problem with trying to not run people over is that you cannot control what others do. Quantity has a quality all its own. Me, personally, if surrounded by a bunch of people who could easily flip my vehicle or can quickly smash my window, I'm gunning it.

It's epically retarded that we should approach the modality of deadly force as different than another when substantially deadly force = deadly force.

We trained on this for situations in Iraq which only differed in that the people potentially blocking our path were Iraqis. The fact of the matter is, those approaching this like a vehicle is some true source of protection are not understanding how easy it is for this sort of situation to escalate in mere seconds. A crowd demonstrating violent intent has the means through #'s to affect a demonstrable intent.