Interesting read on AZ's Immigration Bill

[waxthis]

Send me down...I know how to use one of these...

[SNAFU]

I know, you should have heard him during the whole "beer summit" debacle.

Now now just because

http://www.arrogantbastard.com/

[GreenScoutII]

It's called reconquista. They believe (some of them anyway) that they are simply re taking land that belongs to Mexico. Seriously!

I have no problem with any person who wants to be an American citizen so as to have a better life. I don't blame them one bit. But we have a right and a responsibility to secure our borders.

It is about national security and sovereignty, not race.

[trlcavscout]

Send me down...I know how to use one of these...

Lets go, I got nothing going on here! You wanna drive or should I?

[BigMat]

Such a mess. The deserts outside of Tucson are nuts. Just to be blunt though, the wall idea has a huge hitch that will be very very hard to overcome, the Tohono O'Odham reservation runs along the border, both north and south just southwest of Tucson, they don't want a wall as they want tribal members to be able to cross freely, and I don't envy the politician that wants to put federal troops on a reservation to build a wall (wounded knee?). This as of late has been the busiest stretch of the the border in terms of crossing and is riddled with crime. The terrain is harsh, empty and rugged and the politics keep law enforcement effectively out. The USBP told us to not venture there after dark as it is unsafe, as a dumb 20 something with a rifle this only encouraged us, and on the ambulance its not like we had a choice. I could tell many stories about run ins down there. I still say this bill is just politics, no teeth to it, especially with the revamping which prevents and racial basis for suspicion. Fake IDs are too easy, doubly so, as the only option to make it hard to get a fake would be to make all Arizonans carry their passport. Then there would be a rash of fake passports.


My opinion, laborers get "right to work" type cards that are valid for a little while and mean they have to pay income type taxes on earnings (probably higher than the US rate as something of a labor tarrif giving an edge to American workers), but can work in the US after a back-round check.

The border patrol and ICE are then freed up to take down drug runners and criminals, either not paying taxes or hiring those that don't, leaving cheap plentiful labor to help businesses and farms in need, and freeing up USBP to chase down real criminals instead of trying to herd a sea of cats crossing the 3 strands of barbed wire (not kidding, that is the border fence for the most part) every day. If one gets caught in the US without said card, they are out, deported, and never able to get a card again. card holders are not civilians and cannot vote and neither are their children, where ever they are born.

I am sure this won't be popular with labor, but a believer in trickle-down economics would be obliged to love it, and I have a hunch most economists would be happy with it as well.